Rounding the lumbar

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  1. Skeletor

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    I've seen a lot of people who swear by certain exercises, such as pistol squats and hanging leg raises to name a few, which seem impossible to do without rounding (de-arching, if you will) the lumbar spine. I also hear many people (who seem to know what they're talking about), saying to never ever ever round the lumbar spine.

    WTF is up? I'm not trying to catch anyone contradicting themselves, I just want to know what is correct and whether or not pistol squats and hanging leg raises will be detrimental to spinal stability/health. Thanks for any advice/info. I have googled and come up with little info to satisfy my curiosity.
     
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    If god didnt mean for us to round our lumbar(s) he would have fused them together. You're fine.
     
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    the lumbar region isn't fused (sacral)

    but everyone has a lordosis...if the lordosis is excessive or not curved enough, then you have problems

    but a little curve is normal
    don't fret about it..i don't believe there's a way to get rid of it
     
  4. Skeletor

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    I mean taking your spine from an S curve to a C curve. A C curve of the spine is what prevents other primates from being bipedal like us, and the fragile S shape is why so many people have lower back problems.. It's simply a horrible design, but obviously has more pros than cons, judging by human success in the world.
     
  5. Skeletor

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    I've seen your current deadlift form and you continue to amaze me.
     
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    I see you, Christophers :love:
     
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  8. Skeletor

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    I'm not trying to criticize you in any way, dude. I don't think your form fits the standard for what is considered a safe lift... but you still lift a shitton more than me so I wouldn't dare talk shit. I'm just saying if I DL'ed the way you do I'd be in the hospital.
     
  9. Ceaze

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    that's because DW has the worst form of all time
     
  10. Skeletor

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    Just the man I wanted to talk to. Possible answer to initial post, mighty wise one? :x:
     
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    your last video of 485 was still worse than anything i've seen at any gym or on the internet
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Yea it looks like you hyperextended your back in your last video, and justkinda popped your knees forward. Still made my back hurt,
     
  14. Ceaze

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    Well I prefer to do single leg squats with the planted leg on a step or bench and dumbbells in front to counterbalance my weight. You can keep the spine pretty neutral this way.

    With ab exercises you want the pelvis posteriorly rotated. Check out this article: Core Training for Smart Folks
     
  15. Skeletor

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    :bowdown: Thanks.


    I've actually been doing my leg raises with bent legs so I can keep neutral alignment, and I've been doing these holds where I lay on my back with my legs at a 45* angle off the ground, and my arms likewise behind the head (usually with a 10 or 20lb weight held fully extended) and just hold as long as possible... This will definitely help mix things up though.
     
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    Neutral Alignment just makes tighter hips
     
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    it was crap and wouldn't pass in any competition...you went from shit to suck
     
  18. Skeletor

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    I've been doing them traditionally and every time I'm done I feel like my lower back has been stretched and weakened.... I like that area to be tight and immobile.

    Although the use of db's will take away some of the the balancing benefits of the squats, it beats a back injury or continued discomfort. :dunno:
     
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    . what are you up to now on dl's?
     
  20. Ceaze

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=k7TUo1VPuSI
     
  21. Skeletor

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    shoulder and hip mobility are two things I'm pretty conscious of lately. I've always been the type who doesn't know shit about body mechanics and I'd let my shoulder blades move around just to reach something, or bend at the low back just to avoid incorporating more body movement.

    Since I've had to be so conscious to correct these things I rarely do anything without thinking in the back of my mind "how could I have moved better? What did I do right? What did I do wrong?". My hip mobility is no longer an issue for the most part. I'm not worried.
     
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