GUN Ron Paul :bowdown:

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  1. PanzerAce

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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    You go, boi.
     
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    # Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    # Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    # Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)

    wtf?
     
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    I'm not sure I like a few of his votes in there on crime and some other stuff... He'll get a fair look in from me though, same as every other candidate.
     
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    He's still the best candidate for gun owners.
     
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    Sad
     
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    hes a little too liberal for me..
     
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    Fred Thompson

    Voted NO on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
    Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
    Voted YES on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
    Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)


    seems to be the best for gun owners and conservatives.

    more info: http://issues2002.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm
     
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    Voted NO on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
    Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
    Voted NO on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003
    Opposes the death penalty. (Jan 2007)
    Voted NO on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime. (Jun 1999)
    Legalize industrial hemp. (Jan 2007)
    Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)
    War on Drugs has abused Bill of Rights . (Dec 2000)
    Legalize medical marijuana. (Jul 2001)
    Rated A by VOTE-HEMP, indicating a pro-hemp voting record. (Dec 2003)
    Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on banning physician-assisted suicide. (Oct 1999)
    Opposes Patriot Act & Iraq War. (Jan 2007)
    Intervention abroad incites hatred & attacks like 9/11. (May 2007)


    thats a little too liberal for me
     
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    its my vote, and im saying that he is too liberal for me.
     
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    I'm not sure if you would call me liberal or not, but I see a lot of good things in there. Less government is better for everyone.
     
  15. Dumbstixlars

    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    After listening to that I'm even more conviced that Ron Paul is our only hope. :(

    <---- Doing what I can to spread the word.
     
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    alot of those votes have to do with him not agreeing on the federal govt powers and leaving these up to the states
     
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    I'd like to pick on you a little if you don't mind. Why would you possibly support a weakening of the 1st amendment right to free speech to ban flag burning? As a gun owner I would think you would be the first to realize that infringements on the bill of rights is a bad thing.

    On a non gun related note, how do you support a ban on medical marijuana? When I saw the suffering my grandfather went through with cancer...well lets say I feel very strongly about it.
     
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    Its a moral issue for me. Just like homosexuality and such. I dont oppose it because i want cancer patients to suffer, but thats the way i was raised and thats the way i chose. Yes, we are living in a society where morals dont have too much significance anymore, but for me they still do.

    sucks about your grandfather. Its hard to see people suffering from cancer.
     
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    when i see someone desecrating the flag or burning it it makes me think that if we ever burned an Iraqi flag or an Iranian flag we would probably get screwed over by the media or even the police, but we Americans are burning our own flag.

    The flag is the highest form of representation for a country. If you ever have the time, stop by and look at an American flag waving in the wind, flying high, and then think about those bastards who are taking delight in burning it and spitting on the face of the country

    Burning the American flag has become the fad nowadays
     
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    I know you'll be stuck on the whole homosexual thing, but medicinal pot? A moral problem? It's only immoral because it's against the law. It's no worse than any other drug that is legal. It's completely hypocritical. It's not like THC is less moral than opium or alcohol.

    And the problem with moral laws is that morals are so subjective. For instance, should we make it against the law to eat pork? Eat meat on fridays? I'm sure there are people that would like everyone to have THOSE morals, but that doesn't mean everyone should have to abide by them.
     
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    i see your point.

    but to me, a drug is a drug. lets say in the future i had a kid and he walked in one day smelling like weed i would beat his ass.

    regarding to pork: we dont live in a towelhead nation so why cator to their likings if it doesnt represent the masses

    I guess am old fashioned in this sense. BTW> i dont drink, or take anythign that alters my state of mind. I is a Christian
     
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    the point is, those are YOUR morals. Not even every Christian has them. You are trying to FORCE people to be like YOU through the government. That is not what it's supposed to do. And not eating meat on Fridays is Catholic, during Lent.

    The US is not a Christian nation - there isn't supposed to be a national religion. Murder, theft, assault, etc. are things that infringe on the rights of others, that's why they should be illegal. Someone eating meat on fridays during lent does not effect you - it should NOT be controlled by the government.
     
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    thats why we vote, and the Christian Right always dominates.

    should be interesting in 08 though

    yes yes i know about the catholics. Most people call em mackerel snappers
     
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    And it's wrong. So damn depressing when people try to force their moral agendas onto other people. Everyone be like me or perish.
     
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    That is fantastic, we live in a nation built on the idea of freedom. As long as you don't harm me, you can do whatever you want. I think religion is dumb, but man I fully support your right to do whatever crazy religious stuff you want to do as long as it doesn't impact your life.

    No one is asking you to be homosexual or to use drugs, or even approve of them, just for you to understand that while you get freedoms to do things that don't harm others that they don't approve of, others will have the same freedom. You already know that your decision to oppose medical marijuana causes people to suffer, that is infringing on others. You're free to die in agony from chemo if you're ever unlucky enough to get cancer, but let the people who want to smoke in their deathbeds do so as long as they don't make you pay for their weed or force you to smoke with them.

    Don't think for a minute I'm some pot smoking hippie either, I've never had a puff of pot in my life. I just realize that while I may not personally like something, it doesn't mean I get to make that decision for everyone else as well. Really the same goes for gay marriage, you don't have to approve of it, you just have to realize its not the government's job to enforce your values on others.
    Alright you feel very passionately about it, good, thats the point of flag burning. You should probably want to kick the ass of someone who is burning a flag. That still doesn't address why you think it would be a good idea to weaken freedom of speech by banning flag burning. If you don't like the message don't listen to it. We've accepted creeping infringements on the 2nd amendment and look where its gotten us, don't support representatives who want to take your other freedoms from you too.
     

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