RFC: Google not so up-front with privacy policy

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  1. P07r0457

    P07r0457 New Member

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    I have been fairly critical of Google's privacy policy, in the past. I do use their search engine. I also use their email service for personal purposes. But for the most part, I am hesitant to adopt any product that has the Google mark on it.

    My views are not unlike others' opinion of Microsoft. However, I am far less afraid of Microsoft than I am of Google. Microsoft takes a very vocal stance that they do NOT collect personal information except in very specific and fully voluntary registration instances. Even in those specific situations they warn you repeatedly: "are you sure?". Google takes a simpler, although far more invasive approach: "We collect everything, all the time."

    This article is not so much about the contents of Google's privacy policy, but more so that they are opposed to following industry custom. I personally feel that Google's homepage is unnecessarily cluttered advertising all of their services that I *do not want* that a simple link to inform users of what they're getting into, would certainly not ruin the experience.

    It's simply another reason that I am disappointed in Google, am fearful that they are the next Big Brother, and so afraid of the masses that welcome every new invasive technology from this scary corporation.

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  2. critter783

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    I've felt for a long time that the only difference between MS and Google is that MS is gets all the hate for their practices.
     
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    I got to their policy in 2 clicks, it's not hard to find at all. I think you just like cutting up magazines and scanning them.
     
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    I posted the article in hopes that it would get you to look at the privacy policy and we could discuss Google's not-so-new position as wolf in sheeps clothing.
     
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    yes because my site is so obviously in production and not at all in an "in-development" phase. There is no content at the site, just some testing stuff.
     
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    I am appalled at your pirating of magazine articles, and I ask the moderators to close this thread for violation of copyright.

    Shame on your sir. Copyright is no joke!
     
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    you know, I'm trying to stimulate intelligent discussions but you fuckers just keep gaying it up. :greddy:
     
  9. Peyomp

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    Well, eventually if we bitch at you about copyright enough you'll come back to karma even... if you stop your own bitching.

    :big grin:
     
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    engrish?
     
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    i have no idea how you can complain about google's homepage. they have the most empty and clean homepage that exists for any company on the internet. go to every other search engine and you are assaulted with links to god knows what. on google.com i count less than 20 links, a handful of which are just links to preferences. i'm not sure how you can say it is cluttered.

    i do kind of agree with you on google's privacy practices though. i'm not certain what they are doing with all of that data, but it is uncomfortable to think what kind of data they can be gathering on me.
     
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    Cluttered was the wrong term. I think "bloated" is more accurate. I'm not saying I like the other search engine sites. In fact, I use google because it's sort of the most minimalist. But honestly, that doesn't mean I have to like it, either.

    I wish they'd give me the option of taking their "old school" search page. I already got rid of iGoogle as quickly as possible. But even on the "classic" page they added crap at the top.

    Google is often praised for innovative coding and I feel their webapps drive like a boat. You can tell the underlying code is nasty and cumbersome.

    yea, I hate to be the conspiracy theorist, but honestly the past few years have opened my eyes on how people in this world exploit others. I don't like it.
     
  13. Mike99TA

    Mike99TA I don't have anything clever to put here right now

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    Bloated? I wouldn't call it bloated or cluttered. Its very minimalistic and it loads faster than just about any page on the internet. It has no flash, nothing that makes the web browser use extra memory or CPU, and the actual act of searching is many times faster than other search engines.

    If theres one thing google has done far better than any other company on the internet, its build a decent homepage.
     
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    Google makes me uncomfortable. I tend to think of them as the Empire - pre darth vader. Nice now, but clearly going to turn evil.
     
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    Mike99TA I don't have anything clever to put here right now

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    Google makes my life easier in so many ways I find it difficult to dislike them. I don't really care that they store all sorts of information about me. They don't have any of my financial information (and even if they did as long as my money doesn't just disappear, I really don't care) and I have nothing to hide from anyone.

    Yes I know its "not the point". Oh well. The difference between google and microsoft isn't that one is hated and the other isn't. Its that one makes shitty products that cost a lot of money and one makes great products that are free*

    *They get to use information about you for various purposes, which is fine by me. If its not fine by you don't use any of their services at all for anything and try to avoid being a retard online where anyone can access the information anyway (like a message board).
     
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    very good analogy.
     
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    Google stores lots of info and they are serious about protecting your privacy from the government but - the government will win. They'll get at that shit eventually. So it makes me uncomfortable. I don't like Google storing my search history. My tastes in porn are not their business. It bothers me that when applying there they know that I have a thing for nuns in lingerie, for instance. Why do they need to know that?

    WHY?
     
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    because they turn that information into money for them. :mamoru:
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    That is a very dangerous mentality. If you sit idling by while they do this, it will be very difficult to stop them when they start to abuse it.
     
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    i agree with this whole heartedly. i can't say that microsoft ever really made a great computer product that helped further the industry. they have copied a lot from other companies and done incredible marketing over the years, but their products are quite mediocre. so, tied their marketing genius that got them on almost every corporate PC in the country with the fact that their products are quite often crap, it is so easy to hate them.

    on the other hand, i've never had a problem with any of google's applications. they are generally pretty streamlined and focus on one thing at a time. google.com is such a minimalist site, works incredibly fast and is very accurate. gmail is much better than hotmail. google maps is very streamlined as well and isn't overwhelmed with extra shit.


    the one thing with google is that i generally feel that they are building a profile on the person who sits at my pc or who logs in to my gmail accounts, but i don't really have the feeling that they are tying that to who i am outside of those accounts.
     
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    Personal Computers would NOT be what they are today if it was not for Microsoft.
     
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    Right. They were a good company at first. It was the 15 years after that during which they sucked that made them evil. They changed.
     
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    if it wasn't for Microsoft's marketing machine, not their technical accomplishments. dos and then windows has always been a rip off of other operating systems right up to Vista ripping off all kinds of shit from OSX. they introduce very little innovation, but know how to package someone else's ideas into a very marketable product.

    so, as a corporation, i think microsoft contributed quite a lot to computers. as a software company, i think most of what they've added is expensive garbage.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    How gay is gay? Cuz if these fuckers are carrying purses, i'm outta here!
     
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    when did they change?

    Because from DOS thru windows 3.11 that was the "genesis" of the pc for the masses.

    windows 95 again revolutionized the market.

    windows 2000/xp again.


    so when were they evil?
     

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