after the "good summer jacket" thread, i really needed to find something worth riding in comfort. i've had enough of textile and leather heat exhaustion, and $$$ leather jackets that breath well (but i do intend on buying one someday ) Pros: o-Keeps you VERY cool o-Armor is very secure and feels assuring, adjustable, CE cert. o-liner is keeps you warm (68 deg, 85mph+) o-liner is also very easy to get on and off (compared to ICON) o-stitching is great all around, very secure o-light weight, not too bulky, able to bundle up o-large back 'storage' area Cons: o-no reflective material anywhere o-neck collar is a bit rough o-very cheap foam back protector (but i'm switching it with the one from my leather jacket) o-no waist strap, but not a problem for me o-fore arm buttons go REALLY small, kinda useless for me (i have big forearms) o-no zipper for attaching pants, but not really needed for a summer jacket. i rate it a 8.5/10. i really liked going from leather, to textile, to mesh in summer. this jacket really breathes well. the sleeves have a nylon liner that does fairly well if sweating. its not too flashy, so you can wear it to (almost) any occasion. leather > mesh, but this seems sturdy enough for me if i ever happen to spill.