Removing light oxidation before claying?

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  1. gadorg

    gadorg Harry Caray: But what if it were made of barbecue OT Supporter

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    I was told by a salesperson at one of the well-known auto detail supply sites that I should remove light oxidation with my PC before claying the car; she said that oxidation would contaminate the clay if not dealt with first. Does that make sense to you guys, or should I go ahead and clay, then remove the light oxidation, and so on?
     
  2. NightyNight

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    lol, clay, then polish.
     
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    :mamoru: yeah, that's what the clay is for. sometimes salespeople really amaze me. clay first, it is designed to remove surface contaminates so that you have truly clean paint before correcting.


    btw, not laughing at you, but her.
     
  4. Run N. Gun

    Run N. Gun Active Member

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    bad advice FTL!

    Wash, Clay, then polish, etc.

    BTW - There is a wealth of information in the Sticky threads. Reading them will save you time and effort and prevent you from having to redo any steps.

    Good luck!
     
  5. gadorg

    gadorg Harry Caray: But what if it were made of barbecue OT Supporter

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    Thanks guys.... I'll also read the stickies more in-depth next time :)
     
  6. JRock10

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    we excuse if you have bigger, moar pics of your av
     
  7. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Sorry, but you guys are wrong and the salesman is right. If the paint is oxidized, compound it first, clay, then polish.
     
  8. gadorg

    gadorg Harry Caray: But what if it were made of barbecue OT Supporter

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    Seriously Scott? Your opinion is > *, so show me the path to enlightenment....
     
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    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Claying goes a lot faster and is more effective if you bust through the oxidation first.
     
  10. Beason

    Beason They call me "The Stig"

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    On extremely oxidized paint it takes FOREVER to clay through it. If you use AIO or a polish to remove it it saves a butt load of time. If not you could spend 2-3 hours trying to clay the oxidation off.
     
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    i'm going to have to disagree with scott. If I'm going to compound (or most any paint correction), I'm going to clay first. my goal is to remove whatever is on top of the paint. once I start to compound, the product will cut the paint and pull most anything else out of the paint and into the pad.
     
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    I think I need more clarification then, based on Scott's comment. I understand the painful aspect of claying oxidized paint, that makes sense. If I'm going after my paint with compound and cutting pad, why bother to clay afterwards at all? What benefit is claying at that point?

    Thanks!
     
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    well, after thinking a bit more, it's not necessarily a bad idea. I recall times while polishing i've come across small specs of whatever that weren't removed by the clay or the compound.

    i think i'm going to chalk this one up to personal preferences. i prefer to clay after wash, before compound. maybe one day i'll have the time/opportunity to try it scott's way. a different approach can always be taken!
     
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    hahahahah, ok do what you want.
     
  15. Scottwax

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    Way to add to the thread. :ugh2:
     
  16. Beason

    Beason They call me "The Stig"

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    Polishing wont remove some of the containments that claying will.
     
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    The only thing I would be concerned about with compounding or polishing before claying is picking up any bonded particles that would normally be lifted off of the paint by the clay. If you get a particle into your pad and that sucker spins around on your paint, you are going to introduce more swirling than what you even started with. My vote is for claying first just to get the bonded particles off then compound. The compound will eliminate anything else on the paint and there will be no need to clay after that. A freshly compounded surface is just about as clean as it gets!
     
  18. NightyNight

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    good point.
     
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    Clay, then polish, then clay again? :p
     
  20. danponjican

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    I don't think you need to clay after polish. The paint should be clean after polishing. Claying doesn't get you any better.
     

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