GUN Remington 700 SPS Tactical

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  1. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    I remember reading somewhere that a 20" actually provided better accuracy than most 24" barrels :dunno:
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    one66stang Haters.com

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    I have one and love it.

    sub MOA easy at 100yards
     
  5. McCroskey

    McCroskey Jonny, what can you make out of this? OT Supporter

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    Damn I wish i could get that stock for my 10FP
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Yea same here debating between that or AR :noes:
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Although I would prob start reloading if I got one .308 can get expensive :hs:
     
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    im jealous :o
     
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    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    Nah, don't sweat it. You can still make 1K with 20" relatively easily.

    I assume you don't reload, so shoot the 168SMK FGMM for shoter range (<500), and buy some of the better flying 175SMK FGMM if you want to stretch the legs.

    Or say fuck all that and what you should do is buy a reloading press, and sling the 155 Scenars out there, as they fly better than both (though they would likely require a faster twist than that rifle has).

    Oh.... and ditch the stock. You can bed it, maybe even sink some rods in it to stiffen it up, but forearm flex is going to likely fuck you.

    **EDIT** Sorry bout that, was thinking the SPS varmint when I was talking about the stock. I would still highly consider bedding that stock, and watching closely for flex/forend barrel contact. I don't trust the aluminum bedding block nonsense.
     
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    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    This is absolutely the WRONG WRONG WRONG type of thinking.

    Rifles aren't pistols. There are VASTLY more reasons to reload rifle rounds than pistol rounds. Actually, perhaps I should rephrase that...... Short of the initial rifle purchase, buying a reloading set-up is BY FAR the single biggest thing you will do to improve your shooting. It opens up some many doors, you are nearing stupid not to do it in today's age. Saving money isn't even up there on reasons why. I'll give you a hint.... It's all about the bullet.

    /rant off
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    I know that too, reloading is more accurate too but being cheaper is definitely a perk also
     
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    . I'm a big fan of mine. I ended up taking a dremel to the front of the stock so that the barrel actually free floats while using a bipod. Buys me some time to decide what I want to do for a stock.
     
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    It's no such much intrinsic accuracy gains that I really think sells reloading (though it certainly doesn't hurt), it's the flexibility that comes with it.

    Example.... (a very extreme, and maybe not the best one..... but I hope you get the picture)

    Out of the box, a 243 is *meh* due to being constricted by a shitty factory bullet selection largely consisting of sub-grade hunting bullets.

    Stoked with the long, High BC bullets of today (think 105AMAX, DTAC's, ETC) and the 85TSX, it becomes a fucking giant. Reloading gives the flexibility to pick the bullets that factory loads are currently 10 years too far behind to pick up on, and to do it cheaper, and more in tune with your rifle. It is such a win/win scenario.

    EX:
    A Remington Core-Lokt (common Wal-mart ammo) 100g bullet travelling at 2950 FPS:
    Range Drop Wind Lead
    (yds) (in) (moa) (in) (moa) (in) (moa)
    400 -28.9 -6.9 16.1 3.8 87.4 20.9
    600 -90.7 -14.4 40.3 6.4 147.4 23.5
    800 -209.8 -25.0 80.2 9.6 222.9 26.6
    1000 -417.9 -39.9 137.3 13.1 315.7 30.1

    Compared to the 111 DTAC (Numbers fudged a little because of Velocity guess, people are getting 3100 with this bullet and moly, and I'm using 2800)

    Range Drop Wind Lead
    (yds) (in) (moa) (in) (moa) (in) (moa)
    400 -25.7 -6.1 9.4 2.2 82.1 19.6
    600 -75.3 -12.0 22.6 3.6 131.6 20.9
    800 -159.9 -19.1 42.9 5.1 188.3 22.5
    1000 -290.8 -27.8 71.8 6.9 253.5 24.2

    Notice the drop of the DTAC at 1000, and more importantly the windage. Compare that to the standard 308/175SMK dope where it drops 400" at 1K, and has >100" wind deflection.This is beyond magnum territory, all with a little 243. Guess which bullets you are going to buy in a store?

    I assure you guys, I don't know a single person who started reloading and said "fuck this shit" and went back. Once you do, your only regret will be waiting as long as you did.
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    How much is .308 now and do they even have any south african or surplus left?
     
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    Nice rifle and especially at that price. But I'd still rather have a 10FP with the accutrigger :o
     
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    Don't really see why people would want to shoot garbage mil surp ammo through their rifle. Rifle barrels have a very short window of maximum accuracy so I would want to use some quality ammo. Granted 223 and 308 are better about barrel life, but still we are talking 5-10k tops.
     
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    Lol... that's a lifetime.

    I had a 6.5x284..... that shit lasts like 1000-1300rds. You crazy run & gunners and your ultra-high round counts.
     
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    Well stuff like 300 win mag has a barrel life of 1500-3000, it depends on caliber.

    The 223 and 308 are really good caliber to learn with because of it's longer barrel life. Learn to read distance, wind, and shoot from positions.
     
  19. thegooch

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    Find a new one? Mine only charges $10
     
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    And that is still good. Most shops in my area wont even transfer something if its something they can sell you. If they do allow a transfer, most want close to $100 to do it.

    I did find a small guy locally who does long guns for $30 and regulated guns for $40 so if its a real good deal I can go through him now.

    But its just not that easy for all you guys to say "just find another" cause in many places they simply do not exist.
     
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    I reload .308 for accuracy.

    This is sight-in, and then a 3 shot group in the diamond at 100 yards. That's from a New England Survivor .308 single-shot, a very inexpensive rifle.
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    You wouldn't get that kind of accuracy out of most rifles with factory ammunition.
     
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    Impressive, most impressive.
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    My supervisor/ planner/scheduler at work was telling me about a Remington 700 model he has thats been cryogenically frozen or some shit that helps it shoot a tighter group longer. Is this something you can get from Remington and what model?
    Sounds like its expensive as hell

    The only rifle I bet that I might ever come close to reaching 5K rounds in tops would be a .22 maybe and I dont even own a semi-auto one yet
     
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    I've got at least 15K through my bolt-action .22. Other than the barrel I've only cleaned the other stuff twice.
     
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    You can get any barrel cryo processed. My AR barrel (well actally all JP barrels are cryo'ed.) I don't think Remington offers it as a factory option. It is avaliable on aftermarket barrels.

    They say it makes the barrel more accurate and last longer. It probably does to a point but from my experience not 200% or 300% longer or better.
     

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