GUN Reloading crew, what's your powder of choice? v.handgun

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  1. ZCP M3

    ZCP M3 Active Member

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    After reading the ABC's of Reloading and the Speer & Hornady reloading manuals for a few months I finally bit the bullet and picked up a Dillon 550 from Brian Enos. Got it in 9mm with a 10mm full conversion kit and planning to add 45ACP in there later. Can't wait to get it and quit spending my afternoons hunting for ammo and paying out the ass for it. :wiggle:

    My question for the reloading crew, what is your powder of choice for those calibers? I'm shooting 147gr 9mm, 180gr 10mm, and 230gr 45ACP rounds.
     
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    Minus whale ask what FMJ's you guys recommend using as well. :wavey:
     
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  4. I've been using Winchester 231 for reloading my .45 And I've been getting my bullets from Montana Gold.
     
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    If possible I'd like to be able to buy one powder that can handle multiple calibers up to their maximum ratings. From the Speer & Hornady reloading handbooks it seems like Blue Dot, Power Pistol, and HS-6 are the popular choices that could handle the 9mm and 10mm.
     
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    Depends from gun caliber, to caliber.

    .45= Clays, used to run Tite Group, too dirty in .45
    9mm Minor= Tite group or Clays
    9mm Major= Sillouhette or Vhit
    .40 = Tite Group

    As for bullets FMJ's Montana Golds are about the best out there in terms of price and bullet profile.

    But I like Rainier Ballistics in .40 and 9mm Minor, 115 and 124. I'm experimenting with some Bear Creek 147's in 9mm though.
     
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    I have been using W231 for my .45 I also have a container of Unique I will be using for 10MM.
     
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    Been running HP-38 in most of the stuff recently. Going to give some Titegroup a shot after not being able to find 38 anywhere lately.

    I used most of the HP-38 on some 115gr Berry's plated 9mm.
    I am now using the Titegroup on some Ranier 124.
    Recipe is as follows

    Powder: Titegroup
    Bullet: Ranier LeadSafe 124gr
    4.2 grains of powder and an OAL of 1.12

    I don't know how I feel about the OAL as most of the stuff I shoot is out in the 1.15/.17 range. I might adjust it out a little but I am going to put about 100 of them out tomorrow to see how I like them.

    Keep a log of what you are making and how it is shooting. It will save you a lot of time in the long run and you can make your own "recipe book".
     
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    Mind sharing your formula for the Ranier 124's?
     
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    Most likely top secret.
     
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    I think AA7 or aa9 are probably 2 of the better powders for 10mm but blue dot will give you a far better fireball ;)
     
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    Sold. Blue Dot for 10mm out of my G29. :rofl:

    I guess I'm trying to understand why everyone prefers one powder over the other. Are they that different when it comes to the recoil? What about the cleanliness of the burn?
     
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    I like Unique a lot right now. I've had good results with 230 GDHP's on 6.3 gr of Unique in my Kimber. It's also not as dirty as some of the things i have shot.

    To answer your question, I think accuracy is first. Some guns just do or don't like particular loads. Aside from that though it is (for me) to do with how dirty it makes the working parts. I think some people have preference on how the powder meters. Stick powders and disc powders will flow differently. And of course the number of different loads you can use it for is always important. If I'm buying something new I usually look for loads to put it in more than one caliber just so I'll be able to use it up if it doesn't shoot well in whatever I'm trying it in.
     
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    Yes, yes and yes.

    Ask for a recipe is a good "starting point" but as with food, every has their own preference to how they want/need their gun to action/perform.

    Even if we used similar guns, pressure could still be different from gun to gun/ barrel to barrel.

    Every powder has a different burn speed. And then it also comes down to what we are trying to accomplish. Range, defense, benchrest, competition.

    As for my 9mm Minor load for my Springer 1911 9mm, I run MG 124gn cmj's with 4.4-5gn of TiteGroup, wolf SPP, loaded to 1.145 OAL with a light crimp using a LFCD. This gets me at 145pf.
     
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    How many rounds would you have to reload before you start to realize a cost savings at today's prices? Let's assume strictly 9mm, 124gr. I'll do the math if you tell me what the equipment/powder/brass/bullets cost and also tell me how long it takes you to reload 100rnds. :o
     
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    Gotcha. I appreciate your advice so far! :h5:

    My purpose for reloading for now is different for each caliber I have.

    For 9mm I want to make range ammo that has comparable ballistics to what I carry (9mm 147gr. Gold Dots).

    For 10mm I just want to be able to have ammo period! Eventually I may start carrying the G29 but for now I just want fun range ammo.

    For 45ACP I want to make cheap ammo to shoot out of my incoming P220.

    I'd like to keep the 9mm and 45ACP ammo as clean burning as possible since they're being fired from a Sig 229 and 220. The 10mm I could care less about since it'll be coming from a Glock. :hsd:
     
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    Assuming brass is free...
    Primers are $30/1000
    Powder is roughly $20-25/lb (1lb=7000gr)
    Magtech 124gr FMJ 9mm bullets are $11.50/100 from Midway

    I'm not sure about the powder load but let's assume you're using 5gr of powder per round. One pound of powder will last 1,400 rounds.

    Primer + bullet + powder
    0.03 + 0.115 + 0.0178 = $0.16/rd

    Assuming you're shooting something like Speer Lawman 124gr ammo which I recently purchased for $0.24/rd or so, you're saving 30%.

    Go to BrianEnos.com and check his store out for Dillon stuff and pricing. He's got a nice FAQ and lists of what is necessary, recommended, and optional.
     
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    Here are my costs for 1000 9mm:
    $59 for 1k rounds of 9mm
    $15 for enough powder to roll 1.5k rounds
    $19 for 1k MagTech SPP
    Free Range brass

    It takes me anywhere from 10-15 minutes to roll 100 rounds.
     
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    I'm still debating ordering 3500 of the precision bullets.

    Push me over the fence.
     
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    You could get away with using Clays for all of that and burns cleaner. It's relatively cheap. TiteGroup is a tad cheaper, but a little dirty.
     
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    Where are you finding bullets that cheap?
     
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    Where do you look to get your inital load data from? I'm on Hogdon's website and they dont list either for a 147gr 9mm loading. :wtc: Speer's Gold Dots are said to hit 985 ft/s.
     
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    A couple of guys at my club are going to be making a very BIG order with them soon, I don't know their stock, but I'd buy some very soon. If it is in stock, I would buy now. :x:

    Meh, bullets are relatively easy to come by nowadays. It's the primers that's been a little harder to find.
     
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    Amen. :wtc::wtc:
     
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    Several places. Bear Creek, they don't have a website, but I can email you a price list. He's old school and you have to phone in an order. (= low overhead)

    And I buy Rainier Ballistics locally, direct.
     

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