GUN reloading crew, should i not reload this brass

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  1. Hypnos_VI

    Hypnos_VI JENGA!

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    i just got some .223 ammo from walmart and im not sure how i should feel about these casings. im sure they are fine, but should i reload them when i get my gear to do so?

    also, sorry about the blurry pics, all macro-capable cameras are film...so the iphone had to do :greddy:

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    these casings have discoloration towards the top on every bullet in the pack. the other pack of remington and the winchester stuff looks fine.

    what do you think?
     
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    that's the annealing process. makes the case stronger or to form. . Winchester was just too cheap to polish it off.
     
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    are those the Winchester 45 Gr Varmint rounds?

    I owe my dad 60 of those and can't find them, lol
     
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    $28.xx for 40 rounds?
     
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    no, they are 165gr .40. You can see the box in the pic
     
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    Hypnos_VI JENGA!

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    yea, the white box in the top right is the winchester 45gr varmint rounds.

    the ones im holding are remington 45gr JHP, and the box on the tabe is the remington 55gr FMJ.

    wallmart all all kinds of fail tonight. only 50 round boxes of the winchester .40 S&W so i had to get 4 boxes...i hate the little boxes. and all the 40 round boxes of the remmington looks like the rounds im holding. at least the girl price matched the 50 rounds for the 100 round boxes since i bought 200 worth.

    after shooting tomorrow tho i should have about 900 .40 casings ready to reload and about 300 .223 for when i join AR crew!
     
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    :mamoru::hsugh:
     
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    Hypnos_VI JENGA!

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    while i go this thread going, where is a good place to get some .40 sized 150-165gr reloading bullets. i was looking at a local shop and it was like $25 for a 100 pack of 155gr JHPs. i thought reloading was supposed to be a lot cheaper?
     
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    some guy at my range grabbed my .223 winchester brass to reload :dunno:
     
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    annealing doesn't make brass stronger
     
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    what does it do then?
     
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    then to form. it's one or the other, or both. couldnt remember. :o
     
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    working it.

    every time you resize the brass it makes it harder and more likely to break.

    but if you anneal the brass it makes it softer and easier to work


    all other metals (well most) heating and chilling fast will make it stronger
     
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    so how many times do you think you could reload a casing before you would conceded it unsafe?
     
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    they say you can reload 223 brass 3x. I've done more than that though (hoser ammo). My precision long range ammo is once fired brass.

    If you shot that winchester 223 brass around me and walked off it would be in my brass bag.

    .40 bullets is pretty damn expensive right now. The inexpensive stuff will be molly or lead. the jacketed stuff is $$$. Nowadays reloading does not mean cheaper, it needs to mean more accurate ammo.
     
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    well that's cool I guess. I was hoping to save a little on practice costs.

    So if I reload my brass more than 3 times, would the brass crack or expload on me?!
     
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    really depends on your load, your gun, and how your reload.

    All sorts of stuff. Neck is just out of wack stretched, timmed, resized too many times and it's just thin. Poor neck tension, or it cracks. The cases just take a beating getting ejected out of the gun and might be dented. Rims get bent up. Primer pockets are loose and once reloaded the primer could pop out in the gun during recoil. That means a live primer either jams up the rounds in your mag, or worse it finds it's way into the fire control group and jams your trigger big time.

    What I do is the stuff that I know is once fired brass I seperate from the "misc range brass". Either way you have to inspect each case before you reload them. I do this while I sort the brass. Only thing is I invest more effort in prepping the once fired brass, and use the better bullets in them (long range ammo). The range brass 1 out of every 4 does not make my standards and gets recycled for the metal.

    Reloading for rifle is tons more work than reloading pistol. Pistol is easy.
     
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    how many reloads do you think would be good for the tons of winchester .40 i have laying around. all once fired by me, nothing misc. granted i cant see myself blowing thru 900 rounds before i start to cycle out and just have an ammo stash, but just a good rule of thumb.
     
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    40 you can reload a bazillon times. If it's not cracked, go ahead and reload it until it cracks. You'll lose the brass before you reload it enough times to crack it.
     
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    Natchezss.com usually has nosler 150gr 250ct packs for a reasonable price.
     
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    and if you aren't doing higher pressure loads you can extend your brass life, correct?
     
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    thanks for the link. looks like i can get 100 packs of .40 JHP and 500 .223 FMJ for a damn good price. makes reloading worth it :bowdown:
     

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