Redhat Linux - what a piece of crap.

Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by tenchuninja, Dec 5, 2002.

  1. tenchuninja

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    i gave up installing red hat 8.0 on my crap-top because it would hang at the first boot after installation. no many how many times i rebooted, it would always hang. i did some research and found out that 8.0 doesn't like laptops for some reason.

    so i go and install 7.3. after the first boot, it hangs at where the usb module loads. wtf? so i reboot and it loads up fine. i reboot again and it hangs at the same spot. crap.

    i go into lilo.conf and add the "nousb" argument and run /sbin/lilo. i think it's all cool, until i had to reboot again. it now hangs at "detecting new hardware." the hell. soooo, i disable kudzu from running. now the damn thing works.

    it seems that with each release, this distro gets crappier and crappier. it's getting bloated as all hell too. i mean, windows.* doesn't load up all this useless CRAP when you install it.

    anyways, just wanted to get that off my chest. can anyone recommend a good linux distribution? i'm already using *BSD and like it better than linux. :/

    waiting for the linux zealots... :fawk:
     
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  2. RochesterRed

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    :rolleyes:

    maybe your hardware's a bit flakey, too, eh?

    maybe YOU'RE a bit flakey :squint:

    7.2 ran sweet as hell on my home machine, which crashes on Flash all the time under Windows 2k Pro, and occasionally crashes for other undetermined reasons under windows as well.
     
  3. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    well i hate RH, i see it as the MS of linux....

    i would rather take gentoo or slackware. :big grin: i havent had problems with those installing....

    what type of hardware do u have? chipsets?
     
  4. crotchfruit

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    i want to bone tenchuninja's avatar
     
  5. D1G1T4L

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    why?
     
  6. Dommi

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    I use redhat fbsd and debian
    Im also looking to experiment with gentoo
     
  7. CompiledMonkey

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    Probably because out of Linux distributions, RedHat is the most commercial. I don't see that as a problem myself. Hell, as long as it does the job I'm happy.

    tenchuninja, maybe you should give Gentoo or Lycoris a try. I've heard great things about each.
     
  8. z y i r o

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    i \ve installed rh 8 on 20+ machines and run it every day on a laptop wit no probelms what so ever


    so its either a user prob or hardware issue the OS works perfectly fine
     
  9. Xeelee

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    You can always go interactive... or set it up that way...
     
  10. D1G1T4L

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    yea i understand it's the most commercial but it's very good OS, i dont see anything wrong with it
     
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    Yeah, same here. :dunno:
     
  12. Aimless

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    I don't use red hat, and i don't care one way or another. These are just some of the complaints that I've seen.

    On the commercial side of things... the reluctance to cooperate other "distributors" (ie that UnitedLinux shit) and the moves towards m$-style licensing.

    On the user side of things... screwing with the window managers in 8.0 irritated a few people. Is that an indication that Red Hat's attitude is "here's how it's going to be" instead of the traditional "linux is whatever you want it to be"?

    I think it's basically the old school linux elitests whining that other people are being let in to their world :dunno:
     
  13. tenchuninja

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    this is on an old 233Mhz mitac laptop. i think it has a tilamook chipset.

    the thing i'm sore about is that linux is supposed to work on older hardware. ever heard the saying "just slap linux on the 486dx in your closet and make it a firewall?"

    the laptop exceeds that requirement. windows98se and windows 4.0 workstation installed/worked fine on that computer too. :dunno:

    i've been using redhat since 6.? and haven't had a problem with it on this computer till now. it's not like i'm installing gnome or KDE on it either. i just wanted something that i could ssh into.
     
  14. tenchuninja

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    right back at ya! :fawk:
     
  15. RochesterRed

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    :big grin:
     
  16. z y i r o

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    i dunno man mabee a bad burn or something?
     
  17. tenchuninja

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    hahah. i replied to your original post and was like wtf when i saw the post had changed. i ran md5 on the isos. the checksums matched what redhat said they were supposed to be. also, redhat 8.0 has a utility to check the cds bfore attempting an install. i dunno. i guess the saying "never trust a redhat point zero release" is true.
     
  18. SLED

    SLED build an idiot proof device and someone else will

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  20. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    After fighting for ages with Mandrake 7.0, I will never try to install a .0 version again.
     
  21. Jazz

    Jazz Powerhouse of the Scrum

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    mandrake 9.0 runs beautifully on my machine at home and redhat 7.3 hasn't given me any troubles here at work :p
     
  22. CyberBullets

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    well since im such a big fan of gentoo that i compile, i KNOW exactly what im getting. and if needed, i can always modify if to what i want.

    i just see RH8 as a MS. trying to go much more commercialised. i guess im old school when people had no clue wtf linux was and i felt better then anyone else.... there goes my ego :wtc:

    but i just deleted my Gentoo partition cause i needed the 15gb back for some fileson my 2k partition.
     
  23. DigiCrime

    DigiCrime If Only!

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    its a craptop what else is there to say?? :fawk: im playing, Check SuSE out maybe? im using Redhat right now but havent changed to SuSE yet but going to
     
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    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Um, every Linux distro is required by the GPL to include the source code, so if you want you can modify and recompile on any distro.

    And if I'm not mistaken, RedHat is still available at no charge... Just because they sell CD's of it doesn't mean it's bad. Free software began with Richard Stallman selling tapes of GNU Emacs.
     
  25. CyberBullets

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    im saying i would rather compile my system so its more tailored then installing RH then end up ripping out the stuff i dont need causing more of a headache... so i find
     

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