RAP = poop

Discussion in 'Entertainment' started by lucasbm, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. lucasbm

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    Why do so many people listen to rap music? Rap is 100% crap, consisting of no talent. They come up with shitty sayings like "BLING BLING" and continue to degrade the English language. It would be a little different if they raped about something other than rolling around on dubs while they smoke blunts, and slap their bitch on the ass. Every rap song I hear is about how much money they have and how they blow it on pointless shit. But to my amazement, high school dumb asses everywhere eat that shit up. There is no singing or instrument talent so what is the big deal about rap? I am ready for rap to die out like 80's metal!

    Eminem = 1 no talent piece of shit.
     
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  2. twist_of_fate

    twist_of_fate New Member

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    I'm not a rap fan and I would agree with what you said about most rappers, but you should really expand your horizons. You should listen to some Black Eyed Peas and some Jurassic 5.
     
  3. IrishStunna

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    +1 on what was said. Mainstream rap is all about bling bling. Check out Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Blackstar (Combo of the two), and Common. They seem to be real hip hop head friendly if you're just getting into it.

    Personally i like Swollen Members as well, The Roots/Blackthought, and Aesop Rock. Aesop has some of the most complex rhyme schemes in rap i've ever heard.
     
  4. WyteKraka

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    Pop-Rap is about nuthin but showing off. they do have a lot of very talented artists out there. Degrading the english language? listen to Rakim or Canibus, they are celebrating the english language. Rap / Hip-Hop is more diverse than u would think.
     
  5. Shigy

    Shigy Hip-Hop Connoisseur

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    I don't know how the fuck to begin this. Mainstream rap, of course is mostly what you say, but you gotta realize that there's so much more in the rap industry than the crap you see on MTV. There are people with talent out there, and you can't recognize it. You couldn't spit flows like these guys do. You couldn't produce a decent beat. If you can, then you've got talent.

    I listen to hip-hop. Hip-Hop is a different genre, but is often mistaken for as rap music because there is the same 'rapping' involved (talking very quickly). You could probably say that the difference between hip-hop and rap is similar to the difference between country and modern rock in the sense that they both have a different sound, but they both sing. Hip-Hop often has a positive message, whereas mainstream rap is mostly bragging.
     
  6. lucasbm

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    I appreciate all your suggestions. I have always been more of a rock/metal type listener, and my band is more into that genre. I will take your advice and listen to some of the groups that you suggested. Who knows it might influence some of our music that we play, as far as incorporating some of the style beats they use.

    I just hate going to a club and hearing a DJ put on 50 cent or Eminem. (Take in mind I live in Mississippi! Lynard Skynard is about as modern as it gets. j/k)

    Thanks for your suggestions.
     
  7. tryfuhl

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    In the club, they can play mainstream all that they want, I'm not trying to listen to conscious music at the club.

    I'll agree, 99% of rap that is widespread is garbage, but at the same time, 99% of the music that I listen to is hip-hop/rap, you just have to be very selective, like with any other type of music. It's really :cool: that you didn't come back trash-talking, and are taking the time to check out some artists.

    I mainly enjoy a lot of underground hip-hop, along with a very healthy dose of east coast street rap. My favorites right now would have to be Royce da 5'9" and Cormega's newest releases.

    You should check out a song by a friend of mine and a few of his boys...

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/kraylenmusic.htm

    Check out the song born to die.

    I'm not sure that swollen members, del, etc would be the best place to start if introducing yourself to the better side of hip-hop, it's more of an advanced liking, which I border.

    I'll make a short list of tracks to check out, kinda an intro class type of thing :) To fans of the same artists, not every track I'm listing is my favorite, I tried to make it a decent mix of lyrics and listenability to the average person.

    Blackstar - Hater Players
    Blackstar - Respiration
    Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow
    Blackalicious - Sky Is Falling
    Canibus - No Return
    Extended [email protected] - Fuck You I Rhyme Better
    Talib Kweli Featuring Black Thought & Pharoahe Monch- Guerrilla Monsoon Rap
    Talib Kweli - Where Do We Go

    That's enough to ask of one person
     
  8. i agree totally, rap is evil, and there's really nothing to it

    that said, i for one like the black eyed peas, they're kinda refreshing.
    i also really like Outkast, they're not at all typical c/rap
    Jurassic 5 is also interestering, and not typical

    but the majoirty of rap does nothing at all for mankind, and in my opinion, it's a huge step backwards for blacks trying to gain respect and kill thier sterotypes
     
  9. Sabrewulf

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    Yea, im not one for Rap, i wouldnt just close out all rappers. I think some of them have some sort of talent, but some of them just need to find somethign else to sing about. And i agree with Renegad, it is a HUGE step backward. Rapping about killing people and robbing peeps is not one way to kill the stereotypes.
     
  10. Shigy

    Shigy Hip-Hop Connoisseur

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    You guys gotta kinda learn something...

    B.E.D. is hip-hop, not rap. Outkast used to be rap :squint: . I like Outkast's rap because Andre was creative and Big Boi was a straight rapper. Now when you say you like Outkast, do you mean today's Outkast? Most of Outkast's new stuff is less rap and more focusing on vocals (at least for Andre). Big Boi's music got weird too.

    As for Jurassic 5, they are straight hip-hop.
     
  11. tryfuhl

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    yeah, either way he's nice tho, and that track with him and those other guys is good shit... i don't even listen to his battles, i haven't been much into battles since i quit battling... bux has ripped a lot of people
     
  12. percent

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    I agree that most rap on the radio is crap - much like almost all the other pop music. But just wanted to second the notion that not all the stuff out there is terrible like Jurassic 5, Talib Kwali, etc. Also to the stuff already posted i want to add Lyrics Born as a good artist to check out and take off Common - i ust dont like him at all.
     
  13. Dalius

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    Mainstream rap and hip hop is bad.

    Non-mainstream rap and hip hop is good.

    Saying that all rap is bad is ignorant, unless you've heard every single rap song, which you haven't.

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  14. percent

    percent deluded

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    That reminds me of family guy when the pilot comes in and sees peter in the pilot seat and he immediatly says "Hey, you're not a pilot. I know every pilot in the world" :rofl: (i think it was family guy)
     
  15. Dalius

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    Yeah, it is. Haha, that pilot kicks ass.
     
  16. WellChosen

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    I agree with the other people here, u really have to LISTEN to hip hop and rap. yeah all the bling bling and make em say uh shit is commercialized and mainstream, like others said, take a look at talib kweli, jurrasic 5, the roots, SOME of kanye west (ehhh), some of Jay-Z older stuff, and TUPAC ohh yea check this other underground artist IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE....you will change your whole perspective about things after listening to his songs, dance with the devil, the 4th branch, and you never know are some good songs to check out. i thought the same way about rock, and stuff, now i like coldplay, nickelback, 3 doors down, pearl jam, open up dude. (no homo)
     
  17. balticmkiv

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    you are just listening to the mainstream rap ie hip pop. There are only a few mainstream artists who are actually worth listening to ie Nas. You need to check out some of the artists mentioned earlier such as mos def, talib kweli, common, pharoah monch, canibus, Deep Space 5, Jedi Mind Tricks, Atmosphere, Living Legends, and Cunninglinguists.

    Carlo
     
  18. blueNcream

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    Latyrx, 3MG and even Jedi Knight Circle are not poop.

    So, :gives: :repost:
     
  19. gilwankel

    gilwankel Chippa Choo?

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    Rap in its truest form is just poetry with a beat. Im sure you've heard some shitty poetry but havnt you heard a good poem?

    Here's a song from the Blackstar album that doesnt yell Bling Bling every two seconds.

    [Mos Def]
    The new moon rode high in the crown of the metropolis
    Shinin, like who on top of this?
    People was tusslin, arguin and bustlin
    Gangstaz of Gotham hardcore hustlin
    I'm wrestlin with words and ideas
    My ears is picky, seekin what will transmit
    the scribes can apply to transcript, yo
    This ain't no time where the usual is suitable
    Tonight alive, let's describe the inscrutable
    The indisputable, we New York the narcotic
    Strength in metal and fiber optics
    where mercenaries is paid to trade hot stock tips
    for profits, thirsty criminals take pockets
    Hard knuckles on the second hands of workin class watches
    Skyscrapers is collosus, the cost of living
    is preposterous, stay alive, you play or die, no options
    No Batman and Robin, can't tell between
    the cops and the robbers, they both partners, they all heartless
    With no conscience, back streets stay darkened
    Where unbeliever hearts stay hardened
    My eagle talons STAY sharpened, like city lights stay throbbin
    You either make a way or stay sobbin, the Shiny Apple
    is bruised but sweet and if you choose to eat
    You could lose your teeth, many crews retreat
    Nightly news repeat, who got shot down and locked down
    Spotlight to savages, NASDAQ averages
    My narrative, rose to explain this existance
    Amidst the harbor lights which remain in the distance

    So much on my mind that I can't recline
    Blastin holes in the night til she bled sunshine
    Breathe in, inhale vapors from bright stars that shine
    Breathe out, weed smoke retrace the skyline
    Heard the bass ride out like an ancient mating call
    I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathin
    Chest heavin, against the flesh of the evening
    Sigh before we die like the last train leaving

    [Talib Kweli]
    Breathin in deep city breaths, sittin on shitty steps
    we stoop to new lows, hell froze the night the city slept
    The beast crept through concrete jungles
    communicatin with one another
    And ghetto birds where waters fall
    from the hydrants to the gutters
    The beast walk the beats, but the beats we be makin
    You on the wrong side of the track, lookin visibly shaken
    Taken them plungers, plungin to death that's painted by the numbers
    with Krylon applied pressure, cats is playin God
    but havin children by a lesser baby mother but fuck it
    we played against each other like puppets, swearin you got pull
    when the only pull you got is the wool over your eyes
    Gettin knowledge in jail like a blessing in disguise
    Look in the skies for God, what you see besides the smog
    is broken dreams flying away on the wings of the obscene
    Thoughts that people put in the air
    Places where you could get murdered over a glare
    But everything is fair
    It's a paradox we call reality
    So keepin it real will make you casualty of abnormal normality
    Killers Born Naturally like, Mickey and Mallory
    Not knowing the ways'll get you capped like an NBA salary
    Some cats be emceeing to illustrate what we be seeing
    Hard to be a spiritual being when shit is shakin what you believe in
    For trees to grow in Brooklyn, seeds need to be planted
    I'm asking if y'all feel me AND THE CROWD LEFT ME STRANDED
    My blood pressure boiled and rose, cause New York niggaz
    actin spoiled at shows, to the winners the spoils go
    I take the L, transfer to the 2, head to the gates
    New York life type trife the Roman Empire state

    [Mos Def and crew]
    So much on my mind I just can't recline
    Blastin holes in the night til she bled sunshine
    Breathe in, inhale vapors from bright stars that shine
    Breathe out, weed smoke retrace the skyline
    Yo don't the bass ride out like an ancient mating call
    I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathin
    Chest heavin, against the flesh of the evening
    Sigh before we die like the last train leaving

    [spanish speaking woman] Escuchela.. respirando ??

    [Common]
    Yo...on The Amen, Corner I stood lookin at my former hood
    Felt the spirit in the wind, knew my friend was gone for good
    Threw dirt on the casket, the hurt, I couldn't mask it
    Mixin down emotions, struggle I hadn't mastered
    I coreograph seven steps to heaven
    And hell, waiting to exhale and make the bread leavened
    Veteran of a cold war It's Chica-I-go for
    What I know or, what's known
    So some days I take the bus home, just to touch home
    From the crib I spend months gone
    Sat by the window with a clutched dome listenin to shorties cuss long
    Young girls with weak minds, but they butt strong
    Tried to call, or at least beep the Lord, but didn't have a touch-tone
    It's a dog-eat-dog world, you gotta mush on
    Some of this land I must own
    Outta the city, they want us gone
    Tearin down the 'jects creatin plush homes
    My circumstance is between Cabrini and Love Jones
    Surrounded by hate, yet I love home
    Ask my God how he thought travellin the world sound
    Found it hard to imagine he hadn't been past downtown
    It's deep, I heard the city breathe in its sleep
    Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep
    Deep, I heard my man breathe in his sleep
    Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep

    [Mos Def and crew]
    So much on my mind I just can't recline
    Blastin holes in the night til she bled sunshine
    Breathe in, inhale vapors from bright stars that shine
    Breathe out, weed smoke retrace the skyline
    Yo how the bass ride out like an ancient mating call
    I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathing
    Chest heavin, against the flesh of the evening
    Kiss the Ide's goodbye, I'm on the last train leaving
     
  20. good stuff. seriously, give these guys a try. you won't be dissapointed. they show that all rappers don't talk about rims and hoes. i especially like blackstar.
     
  21. odog402

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    Man, when I first read your post, I was pissed because I love hip hop. But then I thought about it from your perspective. Everything on the radio is "crunk", "bling", and "guns and hoes." I'm a big hip hop fan but I NEVER listen to the radio because that rap=crap. But you know, it really is all about perspective and what your exposed to. When I think about metal/rock, all I hear is some dude screaming his lungs off to a bunch of music and that just as bad as "guns, hoes, cars" to me. I'm sure if I listened to the right metal/rock, I know I'd have a different opinion, but that's all I know, just like you with rap.
    But yeah, if you listen to a lot of the people that the above posters listed, you might feel differently. Try listening to NAS to.
     
  22. On_One

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    I'd love to hear you grab the mic and drop something
     
  23. hottkickznike

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    word
     
  24. kloogy

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    You have some good stuff out there, but some idiots like Jadakiss rapping about Bush " knocking the towers down "....and Halle Berry having to sleep with a white guy to get an Oscar.....ignorrant idiots, with a media forum to display their non sense
     
  25. tryfuhl

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    Jada's album wasn't that bad honestly

    Immortal Technique - Revolutionary II is a damn good album
     

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