A&P RANT: I hate how pictures display differently depending on the browser/monitor/OS

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  1. The Internet

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    For instance, OSX and Windows use different monitor gammas by default (2.2 and 1.8 respectively), so some of my shots that look dramatic in OSX don't translate well to many Windows computers. :mad:

    Also, to hell with AdobeRGB/sRGB and "Save for Web." :mad: :mad:

    AdobeRGB images display fine on Safari, but are converted to sRGB in IE and Firefox as far as I can tell. So then I'm forced to convert my AdobeRGB images to sRGB for everyone out there who uses IE and Firefox (pretty much everyone). Unfortunately, the save for web feature -- which supposedly converts to sRGB automatically -- totally drains the color out my pictures (especially the reds out of skintones). Even when I try to 'assign' or 'convert' the color profile to sRGB before saving for web, it fucks up. :rant2:

    Does anyone have a solution for this?
     
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  2. The Internet

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    IB "stop being a noob"
     
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    just use sRGB. unless you really know what the fuck you're doing just ignore adobe RGB
     
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    safari supports .icc color profiles so don't use it to check color.
     
  6. The Internet

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    I'm tempted to do this, but my eyes swear that skintones look better in AdobeRGB than sRGB... even when sRGB is specified in the camera settings (and thus no conversion is necessary).
     
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    personaly I use Lightroom, which uses ProPhotoRGB, the largest gamut readily available. From there you export the photos and it does the sRGB (or various others) conversion. Never really had a problem.

    Setting your colors in PS is critical too :hs:
     
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    I never really have this problem with sRGB
     
  9. The Internet

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    hmm i wonder if i can use that gamut in cs3...


    edit: yep. so what do i do then, specify it from the moment i open a raw image?
     
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    you can use any, but that doesn't mean it will help with the problems any :hs:

    first step is to properly calibrate your monitor before doing anything
     
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    you know you can change the gamma in osx right?
     
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    Yeah.. But can you change everyone else's gamma?
     
  14. The Internet

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    Ok, so the following workflow seems to work reasonably well for me:

    -Shoot in RAW; in-camera color profile settings do not matter
    -Specify "Pro Photo RGB" when opening a RAW file in Camera RAW (part of Photoshop CS3)
    -Make edits in this color space
    -Bump up color saturation a little bit prior to "Save to Web"
    -Switch between 1.8 and 2.2 gamma (in Apple System Preferences) to see the difference
    -If necessary, adjust image gamma for Windows monitors
    -Save to Web
    -The resulting photo is not as good as the original, but certainly better than converting from AdobeRGB (1998) to sRGB using the "Save to Web" function only


    Thanks mojito and Fusion :wavey:
     
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    Hopefully, newer versions of IE and Firefox accept imbedded color profiles though. :hs:
     
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    it's kind of ridiculous at this point that they don't already.
     
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    if you're using save for web choose 70% quality or better which will use 1:1 chroma subsampling. when using a quality such as 50 the subsampling changes to 2:2, which extracts color information from a lower resolution. you lose all shadow detail, which can mask clues as to how the shot was taken, but the color ends up changing a bit too.
     
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