RAID/Port Multiplier tower enclosures

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  1. Doomsday

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    i'm shopping around
    what do you guys think about this?

    SATA 3G 3.5" HDD 8-Bay RAID 0/1/10/5/JBOD Storage Enclosure System with 120mm cooling fan/ Port Multiplier/ PCIe card / 300W PSU

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    Rosewill RSV-S8 - $319.99 ($269 with promo code)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132016

    its the same as this one amirite?
    SANS DIGITAL TR8M-B - $349.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816111051

    yay or ghey?
    any suggestions? I require esata, 8 or more hdd bays preferred
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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  4. Doomsday

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    well,.. fuck it,.. looks like I can build a 10 bay enclosure for a lot less.

    what do you guys think about this?


    Case/Enclosure


    Basically,... all I need is a case that can hold at least 10 drives.
    I still can't decide aesthetics wise, but atm,... I'm leaning towards this:

    1 x COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $59.99
    [​IMG]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119152

    plus this,...

    2 x COOLER MASTER STB-3T4-E3-GP 4-in-3 Device Module Hardisk Cage - $43.96 ($21.98 each)
    [​IMG]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002

    ** each drive cage module holds 4 hdds, and occupies 3 x 5.25" bays
    Since the case has 9 x 5.25" bays,... I can use 3 cages max and it will give me 12 x 3.5" bay slots total.



    Port Multipliers

    2 x Addonics AD5SAPM 5X1 Internal SATA Port Multiplier - $150 ($75 each)
    [​IMG]
    http://www.addonics.com/products/host_controller/ad5sapm.asp
    ** each PM can support 5 hdds, so two of them will give me a total of 10 drives.

    1 x Rosewill RC-202 Internal SATA to eSATA II External 2Port Host Bracket Cable 11" - $6.99
    [​IMG]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119021
    ** those cables will be plugged to the Addonics PM,... converting it to esata.



    Power Supply

    I have a spare Corsair 620HX and probably will use that for a while. I'll replace it later on with a 300W PSU or so ($30-$40 est).
    Since the enclosure doesn't have a motherboard,... I'll just do the wire mod (also known as the "Paper clip trick) to keep it on.



    Host Controller (for the main pc)

    Addonics says that the host controller MUST support port multipliers.
    Not all eSATA are PM aware.

    My Abit IP35-Pro has:
    2 x eSATA ports via JMicron JMB363, supports RAID 0, 1, and JBOD.
    6 x Internal SATA via Intel ICHR9R Southbridge, supports RAID 0, 1, 5, and 10.
    from what I gathered,... both support port multipliers :bigthumb:

    So,.. I have a bunch of options here:

    Option 1: Jmicron JMB363 - $0
    I just need 2 x eSATA to eSATA cables to connect the enclosure to the main PC.
    got a bunch of these in my current external enclosures (single drive)

    Option 2: ICHR9R Southbridge - $6.99
    I'll need another one of this to make it eSATA
    [​IMG]

    Option 3: SiI3132 PCI-E SATA Controller Card - $24.99
    This is the same card that comes with that Rosewill 8-bay enclosure I linked in the first post.
    [​IMG]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132020

    A fourth option would be to use a RAID card that is PM aware.
    Probably won't bother with this since this will raise the price considerably.


    To sum it up:
    1 x CM Case - $59.99
    2 x CM Drive Cage Modules - $43.96
    2 x Addonics Port Multipliers - $150.00
    2 x Rosewill SATA to eSATA bracket - $6.99

    $260.94 + Shipping
    $300+ if I changed the PSU or added the SiI3132 Card


    So,... what do you guys think? :dunno:
     
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    I am also considering these two:

    Lian Li EX-34N Hard Disk Expansion Kit - $34.95
    [​IMG]
    http://www.silverpcs.com/product_info.php?products_id=510
    ** the cage also holds 4 hdds using 3 x 5.25" bay slots. this will compliment my A16 case (main pc)
    I need to find a silver case though.


    Athena Power BP-SATA3051B 3 x 5.25" Bays to 5 x 3.5" HD (SATA) Backplane - $109.99
    [​IMG]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817995001
    ** this one holds 5 hdds using 3 x 5.25" bay slots. So 3 of them in that case can give me 15 drives total,... requiring 3 port multipliers.
    Will be expensive though.
    also,... its nice to have, but hot-swap isn't really a requirement. I'll just open the case if needed.
     
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  6. cp5184

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    somewhere there's a cheap drive stand that's basically 2 sheets of metal that you screw drives to.

    you could probably do just about as well with some dense cardboard.
     
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    nah
    the CM case and cages is only about $100 or so
    I'm willing to spend that much not to resort to something ghetto

    the port multipliers are the ones that I wish are cheaper :hs:
     
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    So this will feed 8 or 10 drives through two eSata ports?
     
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    I notice you didn't add shipping cost to the pieces parts, which will be close to $30. ($20+ just for the case)

    Add that psu down the road, and that puts you pretty close to the Rosewill you linked which has free shipping.
     
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    yeah,... 1 eSATA -> 1 Port Multiplier -> 5 drives

    i did consider the shipping.
    the corsair psu will stay there till i need it, so it's probably a non factor atm.

    anyway,... even at the same price point,... the diff in # of drive bays (8 vs 10) is enough imo to justify the build
     
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    That Thermaltake drive cage is pure :bowdown:
     
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    only con is that it holds 3 hdds
    the CM holds 4

    i guess i need to mix things up

    [​IMG] + [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 12 bays, $103.95 + $20.17 S&H = $124.12

    [​IMG] + [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 11 bays, $98.96 + $26.82 S&H = $125.78

    [​IMG] + [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 10 bays, $93.97 + $28.81 S&H = $122.78

    [​IMG] + [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 11 bays, $98.95 + $0 S&H = $98.95 :bigthumb:

    [​IMG] + [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 10 bays, $93.96 + $7 S&H = $100.96

    [​IMG] + [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 9 bays :nono:, $88.97 + $8.64 S&H = $97.61
     
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    i've got the older version of the CM 4-in-3 in everything. love them.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I'd rather have less drives that are kept cool than more of them that are hot.
     
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    those CM 4-in-3 drive cages are pretty much standard on the CM Stacker and Centurions

    I never heard anyone complain about their drives getting hot :dunno:

    *** updated/corrected the list above
    looks like the Rosewill case with 2 CM cages is the best deal,... 11 bays, under $100
     
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    man,... I have to check my parts bin more often
    was looking for SATA cables,... found some SATA to eSATA brackets :coold:

    [​IMG]
     
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    They dont. the cm's fan spins very slow and only moves a bit of air but its more than enough to keep the 3-4 HDs cool. invest in a fan alarm :)
     
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    for an extra $100 you can get another 1Tb... so why waste it?

    sans digital hdd rack
    $30 at newegg X2
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]
    addonics ADSA3GPX1-2E two port PCIe eSATA II $39.99
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    addonics AD5SARPM-E 5x1 sata II port multiplier x2 $75 per

    $150 - 5x1 port multiplier x2
    $60 - 5 drive tower x2
    $40 - pci express port multiplier aware sata card
    $40 - athena power 350W AT power supply from newegg

    tot: $290
    you can probably do better if you look.

    having to pay for linking is getting on my nerves
     
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    3412 BTU/hr
    85 decibels
    1,200W typical 1,500W rated max
    Sun X4500
    48 hard drives
    two socket opteron with 16 RAM slots

    it mentions 200CFM...
     
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    two of those racks will cost me $59.98 + $15.40 S&H = $75.38 at newegg
    the Rosewill case + 2 x CM cages is $98.95 + $0 S&H = $98.95

    that's only a $23 difference

    i'd rather get the case to keep the drives and PSU protected,... plus it hides the cable mess. i have a toddler here who could pull those cables.
     
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    sweet
     
  23. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I thought I was looking at a hot swap cage. I didn't realize that thing had a fan in it.
     
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    yeah, the cage has a fan

    [​IMG][​IMG]

    good thing that this was brought up because I just realized that the CM cages has Blue LED fans, and the Rosewill case doesn't.
    it will look retarded

    i'm out of 120mm spares, so I'll probably just switch the case's rear and top fans to the LED ones
     
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    or just cut the leds and no homo.
     

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