GUN Quick question about automatic weapons

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  1. jc_smith

    jc_smith New Member

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    When you pay for your tax stamp and receive it, does that mean that the ATF has the right to come to your residence at any time and check to make sure everything is still legit or for any other reason?
     
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    They can shoot your dog though.
     
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    If they shot your dog, could you press charges for destruction of property?
     
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    Ok, so they would have no more authority over me or my belongings than they already do correct? They won't be contacting me every couple years or anything? Basically I would hear no more from the government than I currently do? Is there any disadvantages to owning a Title II item besides the government knowing for a fact that you own a weapon (which I guess is only a bad thing if they decide to take everyone's guns away, they'll come for you first)?
     
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    They have the right to ask you to show them you are still in compliance and that everything is as it is. However, they cannot just show up at your door and demand entry. They can contact and require you to meet them or set up an appointment for them to audit your NFA items. You then must comply with that, but they wont show up without warning.

    Only way they can do that is with a warrant and if they can get a warrant for that, then you have more to worry about.
     
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    You are correct.
     
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    Thank you. I always wanted an SBS Saiga but always assumed that the government can come walking in anytime they want if I apply for it. Another question, for full autos, do you have to buy them fully automatic or can you convert let's say an AR-15 to fully automatic?
     
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    Yea, I know they're expensive, that's why I was hoping you could convert your own :wtc: What about building your own AR-15 that has a barrel shorter than 16"? I'm assuming you can at least assemble your own SBR correct?
     
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    They can show up and ask to see your paperwork. Or something. But they're not going to.

    They can't just walk into your house and ask to see your guns, though.
     
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    Thanks for the posts l4zy - I've been wondering about the process for a 11.5 upper. :)
     
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    No, but you can kill one of them and be acquitted.
     
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    Umm, from the NFA. You are REQUIRED to provide paperwork to an ATF agent if you're asked for it. They cannot come into your home without a warrant (that is not what I said) but they can most definitely contact you and ask you to produce your paperwork and, if requested, to show the items in question as well.

    If you do not comply, you are in violation.

    They arent going to come to your home and surprise you, but if they contact you and ask, then you are required to comply.

    From the ATF's NFA handbook. http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8.pdf

    Now again, they arent going to show up and ask to come in your house, but if the ATF contacts you and wants to make sure your stuff is up to snuff, you should be prepared to do it and you will have to do it by law.
     

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