quick LOTR questions

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  1. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    i am getting a few things mixed up between the movies and the books again.

    does arwen loose her immortality after she marry's aragorn? and will all the elves eventually die if they don't return to Valinor?
     
  2. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    nobody can has an answer?
     
  3. WERUreo

    WERUreo Imua!

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    I would have to consult my book when I get home, because I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think she actually loses her immortality. I think this topic was discussed in another thread some time ago... Or I may be confusing this with another message board I saw this discussion on...

    I believe that after Aragorn dies, Arwen goes to Lorien, to the hill where she and Aragorn first met, and I think it says something about that being her final resting place?? Joe_Cool, Kansas, someone help out? :)

    Oh, and as far as whether or not Elves eventually dies if they don't return to Valinor, I believe that Valinor has nothing to do with the immortality of the Elves. Valinor just happens to be where they, along with the Ainur, live. The reason they go to Valinor at the end of the Third Age is just because that is home, really... Their time on Middle-Earth is done, and they are returning to their makers, so to speak.
     
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    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    thanks. no more help :( is there somewhere i can find a definate answer?
     
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    once an elf marries a man, she gives up her immortality. the only other time this happened was with Beren & Luthien...
     
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  7. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    She definitely gave up her immortality, and she definitely died - shortly after her husband:

    --Appendix A - I - (V) Here Follows a Part of The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen
     
  8. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Just prior to that, Aragorn told her to take back her choice and sail west.

     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    And on your other question, they can apparently die of grief, but that has nothing to do with whether they return to Valinor. They can grow weary in Middle Earth, at which point they sail west, but as I said before, it's the undying people living there that give the Undying Lands their name. There's nothing special about the land.

    From the Silmarillion, Chapter I, Of the Beginning of Days
     
  10. WERUreo

    WERUreo Imua!

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    Yeah, what Joe_Cool said... :)
     

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