Questions from a mac noob, PC tech.

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  1. savethehumans

    savethehumans mmm piss steam. OT Supporter

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    I just got my Macbook Pro last week after 15 years in the PC industry.

    I got the 15inch..upgraded to 4 gb ram, $2418 CND,
    2.4GHz

    • Intel Core 2 Duo
    • 15-inch widescreen
    • 4GB Memory
    • 250GB hard drive1
    • NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT with 256MB

    I like the mac os, but there are defiantly a few intricacies I need to get used to. I find myself trying to make it like a pc. Which is probably counter productive since, I want to sell, service and consult on them at some point. Just have to take a few apple certifications.

    Now some silly noob questions.

    I do enjoy the expose, but how do I open 2 firefox windows, too have one in each? Will programs auto start in set exposes windows?

    Is there a damn delete button? (that deletes on the right of the cursor), I should have googled it since its been pissing me off.

    Thunderbird doesnt seem to be pulling all my google emails, whats the best mail proggie?

    Is there any sort of actual control panel? The system prefs seems very basic, from a technical standpoint where are the guts of this bitch?

    There will be more so thanks for the help.
     
  2. hurleyint1386

    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    Some of what you asked, I had no idea what you were saying. For the first one, are you asking how to just have a second window? If you go to File -> New Window, then you've got two windows. Maybe I don't understand completely.

    Also, if you use Fn+Delete, it will do the delete you're accustomed to.

    Try Mail out instead of Thunderbird. Mail will be able to set up GMail with out the server settings because it already knows what they are. They ask for the e-mail address and password, then it sets it up for you. Otherwise, go to gmail, click on settings, then look at Forwarding and POP/IMAP then at the bottom, look for configuration instructions.

    Last, System preferences is your control panel. It doesn't have all the bullshit controls Windows does. It has all the controls most people want. If you really want to get into the "guts" of the machine, learn how to use the Terminal. Mac OS X is based off of UNIX so it has a terminal for changing anything your heart desires.
     
  3. savethehumans

    savethehumans mmm piss steam. OT Supporter

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    I have Linux+ and was kind of thinking it would all be dome with commands in terminal, but was hoping for a gooey, as I forget every command I ever learned.

    File/new window worked...haha wow I dont even want to admit how I was trying to do it. :ugh: Embarrassing to say the least.

    So mail is good? I setup accounts on it an everything, but with just a preliminary surface view, is seemed to basic for my email requirements. Thunderbird is better but I would like the best mail suite there is, or I may just get office for Mac. /shrug I havent looked very far into as you can tell by my unaware comments.

    Thanks though fn+delete!
     
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    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    You'll learn that many of the key combinations are similar to PCs. For example, if you want a new window, instead of doing Ctrl+N, you would do Command+N so replace the Ctrl with Command and 98% of the time, it's the same command as on Windows.

    Mail is good. I like it a lot. I believe most people here use Mail as well. Entourage is good if you really like the all-in-one. I personally like having Address Book, iCal and Mail all separate applications that are very well integrated. Play around with things and see what feels most comfortable to you. Also, try out Safari. It's a great browser (it's much better on a Mac than on PC). I use Safari and FireFox. Let us know if you have any other questions.
     
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    You may want to check out the utilities folder, it may have some other things that you will find useful. :dunno:
     
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    :rofl: :mamoru: :hsugh:

    It's people like this who make certifications worthless, and give REAL IT people a bad name... Thanks OP! :squint:
     
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    just to throw this out there, i used thunderbird for ~6 months, and mail for ~6 months, and prefer mail. I dont know if this has been changed or updated, but thunderbird could not pull addresses from the apple address book.app which irritated the fuck out of me.
     
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    same here, I thought I'd give t-bird a try but i ended up going back to mail... it seemed to work for my needs better...
     
  10. savethehumans

    savethehumans mmm piss steam. OT Supporter

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    Thanks for the advice folks, I can already guarantee you there are going to be a lot more questions incoming.

    Starting with this one: What is the most popular and technical Mac magazine out there? I've only heard of Macworld.
     
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    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    Check out MacAddict. I remember it was a decent magazine back in the day (wow, about 8 years ago). If you want technical stuff, I'd say try here in the forums if you have something in mind you want to know. Otherwise, the internet is the best technical magazine you can ever have. Also, check out "Mac OS X Leopard: The Missing Manual" It's a book with anything and everything you could want to know pretty much
     
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    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    Wow, just did a search, and MacAddict was renamed to MacLife about 2 years ago
     
  13. savethehumans

    savethehumans mmm piss steam. OT Supporter

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    What gives certs less cred is braindumps and India. I don't know you but if you are over 25, I doubt you keep up on your math skills from grade 12 if you are not an engineer. Certs are only to get your foot in the door and give you a chance to shine or paid training if you are already employed with a corp. If you are a douche and don't know anything...its clear fast, regardless of what certifications you have.

    To make generalized assumptions like you are doing about me, I think you have other issues to deal with. I would consider myself more of an real IT person from my 2 degrees over corporate paid certification training. Also I have limited RAM in my head and dispose of information that isn't required. ;)

    I have not seen the training software for mac, but what I have read it is pretty simple. Have you seen some of the people working at the applestores? Hardware is hardware, and once I get a better grasp on the Mac OS, I will do my best to not let down the real IT folks.:x:



    Thanks for that Hurley...I have a magazine subscription addiction and time to read so i will check it out, but I agree this forum and the stickies (best apps) are a wealth of info.
     
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    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    If you've got a magazine subscription addiction, then by all means check some out. I'm sure there's some good toilet material :bigthumb:

    Also, what do you mean about some of the people working at the Apple stores?
     
  15. savethehumans

    savethehumans mmm piss steam. OT Supporter

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    I mean if you need these certifications to work there and some are close to 16 years old, the cert cant be that extensive, at least not regrading networking fundamentals or mac system admin.

    I could be wrong but from what I see the questions we along the lines of "Does this Mac come with the 85w ps or the 65w ps?" "Another question I read was what are 3 new features of Mac OS 10?"

    I was talking to the one mac genius and he told me everyone there had to hold the Apple Certified Desktop Technician (ACDT) and Apple Certified Portable Technician (ACPT) certifications, and the failure rate was close to zero. They sound like the most entry level exams.
     
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    hurleyint1386 Someone has sand in their vagina

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    That's only for the Mac Genius position. The Specialist position requires no certifications.
    The best way is to usually start as a Specialist, then work into a Genius because it's easier to be promoted than to be hired directly for a Genius position. Also, I don't know anyone under the age of about 20 that is a Mac Genius. It's a full time job, and a lot of people go to school now, so most are 22 or older for the most part
     

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