questions and pics from today's detail of my S4! *long*

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  1. biawokauns

    biawokauns New Member

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    So, I am a complete detailing noob. Today was as nice day, so I figured it was my a good opportunity to detail my car to protect it for the impeding winter.

    Before I worked on the car, there were some paint marks from assfucks opening their doors into my car and some other misc road damage. There was also some spider webbing which I wanted to remove.

    Tools:
    -shit ton of microfber and towels
    -fire hose nozzle
    -clay bar
    -Adam's Detail Spray
    -porter cable
    -einszett Perls shampoo
    -Menzerna Super Intensive Polish
    -Menzerna PO106FA
    -einszett Glanz wax
    -CCS yellow, orange, red pad

    wash and clay
    I started by washing the car using the einszett perls shampoo, I dried it off with some microfiber towels, then I proceeded to clay the entire car. DAMN there was a TON of shit in the paint!! I used 1/5th of the original bar and 4/5th of the Detail Spray (is this normal for an entire car?). I kept folding the bar over and over. Should I throw away the clay I today? This process took me like 2-3hours!!! My arm was so freaking tired.

    menzerna SIP
    I was unsure if I should have used the SIP or the PO106FA first, from what I have seen...looks like I should have used the PO106FA? Anyhow...I used the SIP with the orange pad and hit the car. Using the PC, I spread two rings of SIP 1" from the edge of the pad. I then smeared the product over a 2x2 section of the car. I turned the PC to 3 to evenly distribute the product. Then I switched to 5 and did up/down/ left/right movements. I was unsure when the polish was "done". So maybe that's why I still have some webbings?

    I spent a few hours doing this. Looking at my watch I realized I'd be running out of daylight quickly, so I decided to skip the PO106FA. I DID hit the hood with the PO106FA and a green pad (I can't really tell the difference?). After I used the SIP on the entire car, it looked very glossy, but I could still notice some spider webbing. Perhaps I need to spend more time?

    wax
    With daylight quickly running out, I decided to switch to wax mode. I was a little disappointed I had the webbings still, but decided it was better than when I had started. I put the red pad on, and did a small ring on the pad with the einszett glanz. I smeared this on the car in a 2x2 section, switched the PC to 3, and made sure the evenly distribute the wax. I waited for 1-2 minutes for the wax to dry, then removed it with a blue cloth. This process was much quicker...hopefully I did it right? I am hoping it will offer protection through winter? When I DO reapply teh wax, do I need to repeat the clay, polishing, then wax? Or can I just wash then wax?

    conclusion
    What a long ass process!! I had a harm time holding the PC vertically when I was doing the sides of the vehicle. The vibrations from the PC on 5 was out of control! props to you pro-detailers. I was disappointed that I was unable to remove all the spider webbing, but maybe next time. I am very happy with how glossy the car looks! OMG :bowdown:. I was a little unsure if I should have used both the SIP and naon polish? Or should I just use one? Any tips, tricks, suggestions would be appreciated!

    AND THE PICS!
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    I know this looks bad, but I'm actually VERY happy with it. Before the detail there was red paint from the girl who backed into my car. I'm just glad my car doesn't have lipstick on it anymore ;)
     
  2. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Very nice and glossy! :)

    Honestly, with Audi paint you need to crank it up to 6 and push down hard enough to lightly bog the PC, then lift just enough for the speed to pick back up. Move the PC about 1/2-1" per second. Even then you are going to have a hard time completely removing the cobweb swirls on such rock hard paint.

    A Flex 3401 would probably do a better job, if you want to spend the $280 on one. A rotary is actually cheaper (one of my local distributors sold me my Dewalt 849 for $190) but the Flex is more like a PC on steriods and has a much gentler learning curve.
     
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    biawokauns New Member

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    Heh, thanks, the gloss is :bowdown:...I was scared I'd fuck it up so I didn't push down AT ALL :o I'm gonna go for a flex vs rotary...I've heard scary shit bout rotaries :noes:

    But FUCK, the entire thing took SOOO long to do, esp claying :hs:

    Should I have hit the car with the nano polish after I used the SIP?
     
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    I think the paint looks great. Looks consistently wet and glossy, especially on the curves. Next time, take a few paint pics in full sun so we can see the issues in the paint.

    Claying makes such a great difference in the feel of the paint. Detailing is a lot of work, but the results make it all worth it.

    Good job! :bigthumb:
     
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    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Audi paint is pretty hard so even without stepping down it probably looks really good. However, stepping down will amp up the gloss noticably. Get the rest of the swirls out, polish it out with a finishing polish and be ready to be amazed.
     
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    ^^ TRUTH! :bowdown:

    I learned that from Scott a few years ago, and he's absolutely right. You'll be amazed at 80% completion and think you're done. Yeah, it's a lot of work, but if you finish it properly to get rid of the swirls it really makes it all worth while. :naughty:
     
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    somebody told me that the spider ewbbing is the clear coat cracking, and polishing wont fix it? :dunno:
     
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    Very nice! [​IMG]
     
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    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Let's just dispell that right now....

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    Right-O. Whomever said that, was either too lazy to get the swirls out or just didn't know how.

    It can be done. It takes work, but can be done.
     

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