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  1. Guld

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    Should isometric exercises be performed before or after the actual work out routine? Or on another day altogether? Nowhere I've seen specifies. Any help?
     
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    During exercise session is what was recomended by jim wendler when the question was asked to him. it really depends on what you are referrign to as isometrics.
     
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    Isometrics as in holding a bicep curl for 10 seconds or so at different angles.
     
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    thats just stupid.
     
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    Really? Why?
     
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    It's not going to make you bigger or stronger.

    Unless your goal is to see how long you can hold that position.
     
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    :hsugh: Actually that's exactly what it will do. That's why people do them.
     
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    :ugh: ok so that is the only think it will do for you. you wont get any bigger or look better or get stronger in any other respect.

    go ahead and waste your time.
     
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    I'm not doing them in place of a routine. Isometrics build a considerable amount of strength as part of a program. Why not do them?
     
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    someone lied to you.
     
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    Prove it. :)
     
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    It activates more muscle fibers than any other method but it only improves your strength at the actual position where you hold the weight. 10 seconds is too long though. 4 seconds is the best because it allows you to increase the intensity. Since this method decreases blood flow and increases blood pressure, it's best not to hold it for too long. Another disadvantage is that it doesn't activate any cardiovascular response.

    When I did them my arms got noticibly bigger however, my endurance and concentric strength did not improve much at all. I could curl 50lbs isometric but only 25lbs for 3x10, up from 20lbs. So I would use it as part of a routine (1 set of 1) and do them at the end since decreased blood flow to your muscles could lead to injury.
     
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    building muscle = win
    building strength = lose

    10seconds is a long time. i keep it around 3 seconds to curl up and 3 going down.
     
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    That is the most retarded fuckign thing i have ever heard especially for strength!
    I was thinking plyometrics maybeee...
     
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    This makes sense. How many positions would you suggest? Doing 1x1 at one angle and then move up 45 degrees?
     
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    :gtfo:

    Some of us like being as strong as we look, and he's talking about holding a position not doing full reps.
     
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    being strong at certain moment in the middle of a rep?

    no full reps? :coolugh:
     
  18. Grouch

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    find me one powerlifter or bb who does it.
     
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    I suggest lifting heravy ass weights and not worying about crap like this
     
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    Those of you who think it is useless to incorporate isometrics, please go read what Mel Siff, CT, Jay Schroeder, and Dietrich Buchenholz have said on the subject.

    I have always used the multi angle isometrics in 2 ways, 1) as a part of a complex set...like an iso-dynamic. And 2) as a primer for a 1 rm....taking an iso pull at three different angles of the deadlift and then pulling for a 1rm, I like this method a lot.
     
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    well its a 1rm so it would be 101-105% for the first pull.
     
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    holy fuck....its an isometric, you pull/push against a force that doesn't yield.....so for you on a deadlift it would be like 225.....for me i just pull against the pins in the rack at different critical heights.


    ps stop trolling me guido
     
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    It can be time consuming so I prefer doing 3-4 positions on a single rep, moving the weight up to each position.
     
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