MIL Question for people in the NAVY

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  1. Mr. Literal

    Mr. Literal New Member

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    Hey guys, thinking about joining the NAVY..they have a new 15 month program which is goos because if I am miserable it wont be forever...anwyay I was just wondering about what people thought about it...pros and cons. It may sound retarted but the being away from women thing has me freaked out..
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    Any short enlistment deal will have a lot of restrictions as to which jobs are available.
     
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    Mr. Literal New Member

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    yea i was worried about that...what r u in?
     
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    NisAznMonk New Member

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    The USAF has them:

    Source: http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/twoyearenlist.htm

    Here is a list of AFSC that qualify for the 2yr enlistment contract: http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/airforcejoin/a/aftwoyearenlist.htm


    EDIT: Found this after looking around a bit: http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/navyjoin/a/navtwoyearenl.htm
     
  5. Ranger-AO

    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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  6. NisAznMonk

    NisAznMonk New Member

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    I don't know what any of those jobs are but I'm sure you could look them up on Google.

    Source: http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=14359
     
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    Air traffic controller (AC): same as civilian side. you watch the radars and control the sky for a few miles out from your ship. generally a group of ships which is park of a strike group will have a TACRON embarked on one of the ships which controls airspace even further.

    Aviations machinist mate: no clue, assume works on engines and shit on airplanes.

    Aerographers mate (AG): weather men, nuff said.

    aviation structural mech: i suck at these aviation rates :p dunno

    aviation ordance (AO): you control the weapons on the boat (like storage), you "build bombs" by putting two parts togethor that were preassembled by smarter people. this rate is really where the bottom of the bunch go imo.

    dental tech: obvious, although nowadays they are all HMs, so you cant really be guarenteed dental, its a subfield of corpsmen.

    engineering aide........ i dont even think that exists.

    hospital corpsman: merged with DT's, you give people shots.

    intelligence specialist (IS): really surprised that is a 15mo enlist, as a lot of that time will be spent in school. you deal with intelligence in whatever area of the world your ship is in. lot of potential at the govt when you get out.

    master-at-arms (MA): cops

    mineman (MN i think): you'll be on small ships, really small, like 35-40 people tops. deal with equipment that searches & destroyes mines.

    operations specialist (OS): sit in a room for 12 hours and watch a radar screen, you're barely above deck seaman, treated like shit, probably home to the second biggest bunch of low lifes after AO's (no offense to anyone here if you are these rates, just what ive seen off two ships).
     
  9. MCDGexx

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    :rofl:

    Thats like 1% of our jobs man...... We do so much more, especially if you get into a C-School

    Also with the 15 month program, it doesn't start ticking UNTIL you start at your permanent command, so if you figure 2 months of boot camp with the shortest A school being around a month, you're looking at 18 months in reality. I've been in the Navy since May, I won't finish all my training until this July, so thats 13 months of total training + 15 months of obligated service= 28 total months. I'm not in the 15 month program, but thats just an example of how long you could realistically be in.

    I'm on a 5 year contract :o
     
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    ya i wasnt trying to sound like you do nothing :p just dont want him getting the image he'd be doing surgery and shit on people (unless you go FMF in the field maybe).
     
  11. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Why do you capitalize NAVY?
     
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    MCDGexx Crazyquack

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    Corpsman have done some pretty insane stuff, IDC's are pretty much PA's, but you wont' get into IDC school in the 15 month program.

    I'm doing AVT school, we're baby IDC's

    but yah, a 0000 is pretty limited, basically an EMT/ Nurse Assistant.
     
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    Do IDC's even have degrees ?.
     
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    MCDGexx Crazyquack

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    Don't think its required, but i'm sure alot of them do.
     
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    Anyways. I know a couple people that have done that call to service stuff. Or whatever it is call. I am an Aviation Sturctural Mechanic. I work on the hydralics on the aircraft, we also work on the skins and other stuffs. But at least on the f18 it's mostly the hydralics.. AD (aviation machinist mate) you work on the engines and fuel cells. If your a party type of person. Go with AO. They get down pretty good. They get to play with bombs also. Thats always fun. Theres a lot of different jobs you can have as an AO though.

    As far as pro's and con's go. It's a pretty fun job in the navy. You don't have a hard job no matter what you do. This shit is cake. But the boat sucks ass. I fucking hate the boat. Money for school is always nice. But that goes with all the different branches. You meet a lot of cool people, but then again there is a lot of stupid mother fuckers out there too. As far as Navy goes. Basic Training (can't even call it Boot Camp) was SO FUCKING EASY. I went in thinking it was going to be a least somewhat challenging. But it wasn't.... at all.
     
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    basic training? I think you ment preschool, all you do is eat and sleep.
     
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    I'll take the airdales then, lol.

    Aviation Structural Mechanic (AM) - Pretty varied, if you want the most cake job in the world that is somewhat cool go with AME (ejection seats)...that's all you work on and it's easy. If you go to a squadron or FRC you'll work your ass off, go to a carrier and you'll work a little bit, go to an amphib and you WILL NOT WORK. Simple as that. You do what the rate says though as far as the job, you work on the structural parts of the aircraft...basically everything except the engine/fuel cells.

    Aviation Machinist Mate (AD) - Solely jet/helo/turboprop/shaft engines and fuel cells. You don't touch any other part of the aircraft. I have a few friends who are AD's (and actually do their jobs) and love it. Seeing an F/A-18 Super Hornet engine in the flesh is badass enough, if you're a mechanic-type...it's a really fucking badass job. Pretty much the same as AM as far as work schedule goes. Squadron and FRC you work your ass off, carrier you work sometimes, and amphib you WILL NOT WORK.

    Aviation Ordnanceman (AO) - Depending on where you get stationed and how motivated you are, you can do some pretty cool shit. Your job as an AO pretty much entails loading ordnance onto aircraft using support equipment and plain old muscle sometimes. You will piece together bombs, but will not build them by any means. On a ship, you'll work in a magazine 5-7 decks below the main deck. AO's work the hardest in squadrons and on carriers (when deployed), at a shore station it's cake unless you get orders to a weapons testing facility where you'll be loading ordnance ALL DAY onto jets.

    **not all AO's are idiots, but I will say this: those who go to Pensacola (where they train every airdale rate) for school, if they fail out they drop them to AO because the curriculum is, as they say, "less technical".
     
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    Idiots aren't necessarily those who don't know their job. They can also be the ones that know their job better than anyone out there, but they are fucking morons with zero common sense. There are other interpretations, but thats the one that comes to mind since I have to work with quite a few "idiots".
     
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    i was an OS my first 4 years. yeah, you pretty much hit the nail on the head, except the lowlife part. we did get shit on a lot. because we were an at sea rate, all we had to do in port was clean. and then sit around til 1600 to go home. fuckin pissed us off to no end. if we got our jobs done, why we still here?
     
  20. bloodred83

    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    You do a lot of the same jobs in the Coast Guard as an OS as you would in the Navy while underway. On shore, however, you'll be working search and rescue on the communications side or as a search and rescue planner on the operations side. Kinda like a 911 call center, but you deal with mariners.

    I've been in the Coast Guard 6.5 years and 5 of them have been from the search and rescue aspect of being an OS.


    v.jointhecoastguardlolnavy
     
  21. Sharkticon

    Sharkticon The safest place in combat is on an AEGIS Class Gu

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    They control AVIATION ordnance.

    It does exist

    There are about 25 different NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) codes under HM. Mostly the Quad Zero (No NEC types) are the ones giving the shots.

    You've only been on 2 ships? You shouldn't be giving ANY advice. ;)

    By the way, what rate are you?
     
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    engineering aid is a seabee rate, and from what ive seen so far, probably the best rate to have as a seabee...
     
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    Doesn't matter if HM's have 25 different NEC's. If you are stationed onboard a ship (which you will be) you spend 90% of your time giving out shots or prescribing motrin at sick calls. Don't make it sound like there's some special side of the surface navy that you do more. Obviously you can be more specialized in stuff... and run the blood bank, blood testing, X-Rays, etc... but that is a minor in your time spent.

    And I'm the perfect one to give advice to him, im young, I've been to more than one command (so that "this isn't the real navy" bullshit doesn't apply), and I havn't been tainted by becoming a lifer which the OP obviously isn't looking for on a 15 month program.

    And I've even been on a large deck (LHD, FDNF) and a small boy (DDG, states) so other than the east coast which can rot in hell I've seen the navy ;)

    IT btw
     
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    tell that to an IDC or an FMF corpsman.
     
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    itski Yargg

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    I remember when I was excited about the navy too.
     

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