Question about uploading an individual scene from a DVD

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  1. HalfPastGone

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    My dad has a DVD that he wants to put a scene of on youtube. what would be the process of doing this? does he need a program to separate individual scenes?
     
  2. macbook bro

    macbook bro Guest

    realistically, you'd probably get better help in the main forum
    say youre trying to upload some porn clip from a dvd and will post the link if they help you out
     
  3. planeh

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    I believe you would need a program, imovie or of the like to download the clip to so you can then upload to youtube.

    I use Sony Vegas, dump the program into that, render out the file at 516kb and then upload to YT
     
  4. Dale In Sales

    Dale In Sales Search my name on You Tube

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    Try windows movie maker, it works for me, just search my name on you tube and you'll find some whacked out stuff.
     
  5. planeh

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    How is that going to help him out?
     
  6. borazhasleftthebuilding

    borazhasleftthebuilding Lets Party OT Supporter

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    clone dvd to rip it to hd, then open it in windows movie maker to edit, then up to youtube

    tres ez
     
  7. 7960

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    this wouldn't be a copy-protected DVD, would it?
     
  8. P07r0457

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    not legal.
     
  9. Cthalupa

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    I'm glad to see that no matter how long you post here, the cumulative value that you add still resides at a stagnant zero. It's always nice to have a universal constant.

    You know, a lot of video recorders use DVD-rs, or mini DVD-rs, right? It could be very possible that it's a video of a nephew taking his first steps, or some other random thing. And then there are fair use laws regarding copyright material as well - nothing at all anyone has said gives you anywhere near enough evidence to say that it isn't legal.

    On a side note, I've always found it hilarious how utterly nuts you are about the rules in here, when in the main forum you'll see mods posting links to places like warez-bb, tutorials on how to use newsreader programs get stickied (and later archived!), etc. Don't you have something more productive to be doing?
     
  10. P07r0457

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    I think a constant is much better than someone that flip-flops all the time.

    Yes, and those store data differently than a CSS-encrypted DVD. They also come with editing software, manuals, and fucking INSTRUCTIONS.

    If that is the case, then he's a fucking retard for not being able to use their idiot-proof editing software.

    Or the more likely scenario that he is implying a production DVD.

    You think that WE'RE nuts for following the law? I think fazle is a fucking faggot for allowing that shit to continue in the main forum. But hey, it's his servers, and it's his life. He can do whatever he wants with it. But in C&P we do have rules, and they should be followed.

    I find it absolutely hilarious how you fuckers think "hey it's okay to steal shit. hey it's okay to help others steal shit."

    Don't you have something more productive to be doing other than stealing shit or helping others steal shit?
     
  11. Cthalupa

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    And much better than both of those is someone who is willing to adapt as times change.

    Where the fuck did he say it's a CSS encrypted DVD? All he said is he wants to put an individual scene on youtube, and has no idea how to do it. You read things with some sort of glasses that take simple things and add a huge amount of completely random context that wasn't there in the first place.

    Which is certainly possible.

    Which is pure supposition.

    There's following rules to a reasonable extent - I'm not saying tell the guy how to go to a Movie Torrent Site X and download shit - and then there's being an overzealous nutjob.

    First of all, it isn't theft, you nutter. It's copyright infringement. Demonizing it with idiotic dogma only weakens your case. Copyright infringement is obviously wrong, it's obviously immoral, and it's obviously illegal - but it isn't theft, and acting like it is only makes you look stupid. If I steal a snickers bar, no one can buy that snickers bar I stole. If I download an album, there are still copies left to buy. And there's no guaruntee I would have bought the album if I hadn't downloaded it - you cannot prove that there was a lost sale. You cannot prove that there was a negative economic impact.

    Note, I'm not saying that everyone who downloads music only downloads things that would not have otherwise bought. But some 14 year old kid who downloads a copy of 3ds max or maya or photoshop or some shit is not a lost sale for those companies, because, quite obviously, he would not have bought the software in the first place. There is no negative impact on Autodesk or Adobe. If he had stolen a copy of that software, the store he bought it from would be out a sale, and whatever it was that they paid for the software.
     
  12. dissonance

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    I have my grandma's old DVD recorder and it came with no software nor instructions on how to rip anything to the computer. Nothing illegal about it.

    Back to the topic, if it is a "retail" DVD then it will be encrypted and you would need some type of decrypter (SlySoft makes a good one). You will need something that will rip the video and then a converter to get it into a youtube happy format. A google search for each part will get you plenty of free and pay software.
     
  13. P07r0457

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    Well, it's still illegal, so it would be quite premature to change, as there is nothing new to adapt to.

    I don't read posts with horses' blinders on, as you obviously do. You think because he didn't explicitly say "I am stealing" that it's okay to help him steal? Due diligance.

    Logic is difficult for you, I know. For me, it's easy to put a.b.c.d.e.f.g. together and know that .h.i.j.k.l.m.n.o.p comes next. Granted there's a slim chance that's not what they wanted next, but the overwhelming majority of the time, it does.

    Helping someone copy a dvd is not appropriate for this forum. period.

    You are now trying to change the subject. Don't.

    That's like saying that it's not theft-of-service to hop a fence into a concert or theme park because they otherwise wouldn't have paid for a ticket any way. Certainly they didn't prevent a patron from entering the park, but it's still the shittiest argument ever. Theft is theft -- regardless of whether someone else was prevented from obtaining the product, or not.

    What if you stole my car over night and returned it in the morning. I was sleeping and wasn't using it. so technically you didn't deprive me of it (as in your snicker bar analogy) yet it's still fucking theft.
     
  14. dissonance

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    :bash: this is starting again.... NOOOO!!!!!!!

    Drop the arguement about stealing vs copyright infringement. Its been done and goes nowhere. The MPAA and RIAA have penetrated too many minds already and there is no return for them (like you potroast).

    You made your comment, no reason to keep posting in this thread.
     
  15. Cthalupa

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    You get your panties in a twist about shit like ettercap and wardriving too. It's certainly not limited to copyright infringement.

    There are dozens of legitimate usages for copying a scene from a DVD. If someone asks you about how to use a gun, should you not tell them because it's possible they might intend to commit a crime with it?

    No, logic for you is seeing 1 and 2, and then going 4 and 8. That might be right part of the time, but it could also be going 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.

    He's asking how to copy a specific scene out of a DVD. Not rip one. He hasn't said a single word about needing DeCSS or anything like that.

    No, I'm trying to correct a misused word.

    Except concerts and theme parks have limited space, capacity maximums, etc.

    Except if you tried to use it during the night, you would have been unable to. You physically took something somewhere else.

    You do understand the difference between the physical and the virtual, right?
     
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    But if they hop the fence then they are not counted towards that capacity limit.


    but in my scenario I didn't. it's still theft.

    yes, and you do understand that ownership extends to each, right?
     
  17. Cthalupa

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    Unless it's a small venue and someone is bored enough to count. The capacity limit is there for safety reasons, so them being there certainly does count towards it.

    Except if you had tried to use it, it would be gone. This isn't a difficult concept.

    Yes, but in one example you are making a copy, in the other, you are physically taking something. Again, not a hard concept.
     
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    apparantly for you, it is. I'm not arguing duplication. I'm stating both are theft.
     
  19. dissonance

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    :squint:

    UK definition of theft from the Theft Act 1968 (from wikipedia):
    "A person is guilty of theft, if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it"

    Electronic piracy is a copyright infringement of IP but does not permanently deprive the other of its usefullness.

    Having a hard time finding a definition of theft in the US as it is different from state to state. And I don't feel like looking to hard to prove your warped mind wrong.
     
  20. P07r0457

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    I'm sorry, you've confused me for someone who gives a fuck about the UK. That back asswards country prevents its citizens from any reasonable form of self-defense. Fuck them.


    I'll keep it in mind, however, next time I'm in GB, so that i can steal whatever I want and just say "but I was gonna give it back".
     
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    there is a difference between theft and copyright infringement. That's all.
     
  22. Cthalupa

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    If it was theft, they would be getting charged in a criminal court for theft.

    Instead, people are charged in a civil court for copyright infringement.

    I would ask "Are you fucking dense?", but I already know the answer.
     

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