Question about soda/beer/carbonation...

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  1. Alias

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    My gf brought over a 12pack of diet pepsi the other day and I noticed that I've been drinking a soda rather than pigging out.

    I'm ~12-13% bf and was going to start cutting soon, in hopes of upper single digits. (this might help me resist urges :o)

    I haven't been drinking soda of any kind for about a year now (diet or regular)... Mainly just because I prefer orange juice...

    I remember some post a while back saying that the carbonation in sodas can create ether links and essentially turn muscle into fat.

    The other day I thought "Why not soda... I drink a fair amount of beer, and thats carbonated too"

    But I just did some reading and saw that most beers get carbonated as a result of fermentation, not CO2 injection...

    So, as some clarification, is the carbonation in soda really bad for you? What about beer/champagne?
     
  2. ralyks

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    Muscle doens't turn into fat, fat doens't turn into muscle. I've heard things about carbonation and calcium deficiency but that shouldn't be a problem unless you're cutting pretty hard.
     
  3. FINALBOSS

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    i'd go easy on beer...even the lightest of beers still have ~90 calories.

    diet soda is a-ok unless you're drinking 3 cases a day.
     
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  5. MaineSucks

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    thats the least of your worries with beer/alcohol. test receptor blocking, fat burning inhibition, dehydration, etc

    with that said... i'm going on a beer run
     
  6. getjacked

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    :rofl: and somehow you still manage to stay huge... my 2 day binge put me down 8 lbs, but it was all back today. Now it's my best friends 21st, and time to drink a couple more :ugh:
     
  7. Leo95SE

    Leo95SE The OMINOUS one

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    the carbonation bubbles get infused into the muscle, causing the muscle to separate from the air b/t the fibers, making you bloated, then carrying away the fibers and bringing them to the parts of your body where the fat is stored, where they get re-attached to the fat fibers. its a long scientific name, i believe its carbofatimamoronation
    i hear its an epidemic.
     
  8. MaineSucks

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    my roommate's 21st is a week from today... gonna be a good time
     
  9. Alias

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    i dont remember who posted it.

    but it was something along the lines of "aerosolical carbon (that which is used to carbonate drinks), when injested, forms ether links and essentially turns muscle into fat"

    i dont remember, thats why i'm asking clarification :o
     
  10. Alias

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    found it...

     
  11. Alias

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    and right after it

     
  12. Chalkitup

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    != turning muscle into fat.
     
  13. Alias

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    hence why i said i wasnt sure and was asking for clarification.

    i was going from memory, not reading off the post.
     
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    hmmm. no offense to the people on the board, but, any source on that not being some random guy from OT?
     
  16. MaineSucks

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    its a well known fact everyone on OT is a peer-reviewed, published clinician
     
  17. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    im a diet coke fanatic/muscle factory...thats all you need to know
     
  18. getjacked

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    alcohol is bad damnit... I had like 7-8 beers :ugh: fuck it, my test cannot be surpressed!
     
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    I have such a taste for heavy ass beer. :hs:
     
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    My understanding is this:
    A drink is carbonated by dissolving CO2 gas into it under high pressure and cold conditions. This is why warm or opened drinks go flat easily. Most of this gas is not absorbed my the digestive system but removed as burps or farts.
    Muscles are made of proteins which are made of amino acids, containing bonds of N-C-N, etc.
    Fat is made of triglycerides, which do contain important ester bonds.

    If the Carbon bonds in a protein were "ripped out", I can't see why an ester bond would just magically form along it and create a triglyceride. The protein would simply fall apart.
    But before that even, I can't see why carbon dioxide would even be attacking those bonds, nor how it got there anyway. Carbon dioxide in the body is generally removed via the lungs, and a little bit get used in digestion during the citric acid cycle, however this is CO2 that's activated by biotin (a B-group vitamin) it's not "aerosolical" anything.

    I'm going to be honest; I looked up both carbonation and aerosolical in my organic chemistry and biology textbooks, and I got nothing.
    If there's anyone who insists that carbonated drinks turn muscle to fat (which I don't believe for a second is true), I will ask my lecturer and come back with a "more scientific" reply
     
  21. getjacked

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    dude, it's already been stated that it's physically impossible. Leo was fucking around if you didn't catch that part
     
  22. Alias

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    so theres no negative whatsoever in drinking diet sodas?

    some ex of mine said i was going to get cancer from drinking diet soda and that there were nasty fake shit in it that got it to have no calories...

    I knew there was negatives with alcohol, but not test surpression :( I pulled more than i ever have a few days ago after a night of heavvvvy drinking.
     
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    I support this statement. I recently read an article where Russian scientists where working on a way to reverse this process and essentially produce the enzyme that will bring fat cells to the muscle, turn them into a tissue like muscle fibers, and then attach them. You will gain large amounts of musle and lose fat at the same time.
     
  24. Alias

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  25. Leo95SE

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    ya they almost had it, but they realized you have to head into space to release the carbon buildup, as its a vacuum there.
     
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