Question about overtraining/soreness

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  1. turbo35

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    Up until now, I've been training 2 times a week, doing full body exercises in different orders, depending on what groups I wanted to hit the hardest. I'd have soreness, but it would start dying out after the 2nd day, and I was ready to hit the gym the 3rd. I noticed some decent gains over the initial 2 months.

    In the 3rd month, I've gained a signifigant amount of weight. Been eating much heavier. I don't feel like I've gained much muscle by mirror, but I'm sure I've put on extra fat, so I know I look "softer" anyways and definition isn't an indicator right now.

    Now I'm staying sore into my 2nd workout. I work out Mondays and Thursdays, and today I'm still sore from Monday's workout. Felt it last Thursday too, but not this distinctly. I don't mind working out while sore, my question is does this mean my muscles aren't fully recovered and I'm pushing them too soon to allow any decent mass to build?
     
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    you're prabably not eating right/sleeping enough.

    I workout 5 days straight and my soreness usually goes away the next day.
     
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    I'm eating plenty, put on like 15 lbs in the last month and a half. Sleep is anywhere from 6-8 hrs a night.
     
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    i hate it when i read that i have to sleep 8 hours every night.. i just can't do that.
     
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    i did legs on monday
    they're still sore today
    i'm riding my bike this afternoon
     
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    any reason why you're doing a full body split 2x/week?
     
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    I don't mind going back in to work out, but since my goal is muscle mass, I don't want to be counterproductive.

    Cuz like I said, since I was so out of shape anyways it wasn't really pushing that hard until recently, it was more of a "getting back into shape" kinda thing I guess. Body could take that kind of a workout, but now it's not so happy about it.
     
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    you're fine

    don't you think a bodypart split would be more beneficial?
     
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    YOU'RE FINE. YOU'RE NOT OVERTRAINING. I lift legs once a week on Pur's routine and that's enough to make me sore for about 4 or 5 of the other 6 days of the week usually. 48 hours is plenty for your body to recover.

    Don't be skurred.
     
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    How so? If I working my muscles to fatigue and giving them what's apparantly ample time to recover, how would a bodypart split help?

    I see how it would make sense where you're pushing so hard you only have energy for maybe 2 or 3 muscle groups, but I have the energy... I just don't have the muscle. If I was pushing so much weight that I felt I wasn't pushing enough on the 2nd half of the workout to do anything I'd think about it... but as-is, I can work all the major groups I'm aiming for and push all those muscles until I can't get another rep at that weight.

    I'm not challenging you or anything, but how would a split help in my situation enough to convince me to sit on the 405 at 6 pm an extra day each week? :noes:
     
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    :dunno: i'm just sayin what's worked for me

    doing heavy compound movements (for example: deadlift) and then doing auxillary work (example: rows, pulldowns, pullups) seems to work better for me, as far as making strength AND muscle gains

    where are you working out at? i'm not too far from the 405
     
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    Live in Culver, work in SaMo 24hr on Ocean Park and 28 or whatever. It's definitely worked, but slowed down... and it's happened to correspond with the increased ache. Just wondering how the two were related, if I'm really good on actual muscle recovery within my current workout I'll probably keep doing that.
     
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    yeah, that's a little north of where i'm at

    i say switch up your routine :dunno:
    it's good to switch it up every once in a while anyway
     
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    full body, low volume, and higher frequency is better for untrained/detrained individuals
     
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    What signs signal a departure from that state to someone that needs a split?
     
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    is yours full body/low volume/high frequency?
     
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    full body: yes

    low volume: usually 2 or 3 sets each exercise @ ~8 rep to failure weight (not including ~50% weight warmup sets)

    high frequency: not sure the definition of high frequency, but IMO anymore than twice a week and muscles aren't getting sufficient recovery time

    :dunno:
     
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