A&P question about low light situations

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  1. xenon supra

    xenon supra OT Supporter

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    so i went up to chapel hill, NC yesterday to watch the UNC/ kansas game in the Dean dome (the unc stadium). the lights were dim (for the projection) but i wanted to get some pictures of the stadium. i had a really hard time getting anything to turn out.

    i was curious if it was even possible to get a decent shot in a situation like this or if I'm just shit outta luck.

    here's one of the pics I got, what can I do to get a decent pic in a situation like this.

    shot with the pop up flash (which is why the foreground looks so bright) - i'm aware the picture sucks, the only reason i'm posting is so u can see the situation i was dealing with....

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    EXIF
    Exposure Time: 1/60 sec
    F-Number: f/3.5
    ISO: 1600
    Focal Length: 18mm
     
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    xenon supra OT Supporter

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    here's a few of the other shots i got on campus
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  3. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

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    "F-Number: f/3.5"

    problem identified

    also, for a shot like an open stadium with no movement(or hardly any), you could easily go lower then 1/60th
     
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    shooting at anything above f/3.5 just got darker and darker....
     
  5. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

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    thats why you need a faster lens, aka f/2.8, f/1.8..etc.

    there are just some things you cant "do better" with what you have. A lens with a max aperture of 3.5 isnt gonna do good in low light no matter how good you are. You might as well ask how you can make your nifty fifty zoom.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    longer shutter speed to compensate (or higher iso).

    Take several shots, bracket, combine, HDR - this will expose for both the shadows, midtones, and highlights.
     
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    Yeah, I had to shoot handheld and I guess I could've tried 1/30th or 1/45th.

    I did shoot in raw, let me see if I can make it any better with some PP
     
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    pass it through noise ninja too.
     
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    :coold: thats what I was thinking. thanks.

    too bad i didn't have my 50mm f/1.8 with me :hs:
     
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    wayyyy too much noise when i try hdr in photomatix
     
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    Why the hell would you try an HDR out of one dark ass pic?
    I think people dont understand what an HDR is..


    Anyways, to answer your question, you just need more light. Thats either through a faster lens, or a slower shutter speed. (or a higher ISO could do it too but thats not "more light").
     
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    WTF now I see why you tried an HDR and this advice is very off-base. If you can create the picture from one capture, you should create the picture from one capture. Aside from the projector screen, I doubt there would be anything too bright to capture in one picture if you exposed the rest of the scene properly.
     
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    VR woulda been nice to hand hold even slower shutter speeds. There's not much you can do in that situation besides cranking the ISO up, using a slower shutter speed, and going wide open on the aperture. Unless you want to set up a bunch of strobes everywhere :lol:
     
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    In a low light shot at last weekend, I put my camera on shutter priority and brought the shutter speed down to around 30 to 50. ISO was auto set at 1600 and a night shot came out amazing... I'll post it in a second. :o
     
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    Nice shot of the bell tower!

    And to answer your question. A faster lens would help but a tripod would help even more.
     
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    Sounds good, I wish I had had my 50mm f/1.8 with me, I probably would've had much better luck.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    HDR would've worked if he bracketed the photos. The reason his shot is coming out noisy is because 90% of the image is underexposed. Bracketing that shot and masking off the opacity of the projector could allow for the image to be better exposed. Nothing wrong with my advice.
     
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    ballz Two of 'em OT Supporter

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    not trying to be an asshole, but isn't this photography 101? and why did you even bother with the flash?
     
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    yea its pretty basic but its not like I did anything wrong. I was shooting at the correct settings for everything I had to work with. I was just curious if theres anything I could've done to make it better with the equipment (or lack there of) that I had to work with.

    i had the flash up because I had just taken a few pics of my friends... thats all

    asshole :mamoru:
     
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    thanks :coold:
     
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    Actually you did do some things wrong. You shot w/ the flash for one thing. Flash won't do anything for you in a shot like this as it won't hit anything except what's right in front of you (in this case the wall/railing.) This caused the meter to get confused and the ettl made it stop down making everything else way too dark.

    What you SHOULD have done here is use a tripod or use something stationary to support the camera. Open up the apreture as wide as you can, bump your ISO as high as you're willing to (depending on noise) and shoot w/ a slow shutter speed to get a proper exposure on everything BUT the projection. Then if you really wanted you could shoot another one w/ a proper exposure for the projection and drop that in in post.
     

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