GUN Question about keeping autos loaded...

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  1. GuiltySparc

    GuiltySparc OT Supporter

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    Hey fellas, i have quick question that has probably been gone over here before...Is it bad for the gun to keep the magazine loaded all the time? Ie, if you have an automatic pistol for home defense, you certianly dont want to have to load the mag in the event of an emergency. But will the constant pressure on the mag spring wear it out or reduce its effectiveness over time?

    It would seem that the answer is yes, however people use use guns daily, like LE and military, they keep their guns loaded...

    Like i said, this is probably something thats been discussed, but any ideas on it?
     
  2. striker754

    striker754 Chillin

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    not bad for it
     
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    DaJMan When i was young, i dreamed of being a baseball

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    springs wear out due to cycling rather than being constantly compressed or extended, so keeping your mags full for long periods of time shouldnt have too much of an effect on the life of the spring
     
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    Zombie Pornstar I'm cumming RAWL

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    Right. We are studying springs in physics and they can be kept in one position without losing spring constant.
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    They will relax slightly over time. Best to just function check them all periodically.
     
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  7. ReefBlue

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    You shouldn't be keeping rounds in the mag that long for one reason:

    You shouldn't be going that long without practicing at a range with it. :)
     
  8. Platinum_Thunder

    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    It's not bad for the gun, but I rotate my mags out once in a while.
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    Even if you did have a mag malfunction on you. All you need is that one round at the top
     
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    2L Bunny "It's only a Rabbit"

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    Yup, that's why mag springs are cheap. But in any normal use you're not going to wear it out.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    It's important to note...Don't get married to your mags. If one is giving you problems, replace it.
     
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    2L Bunny "It's only a Rabbit"

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    Ain't that the truth. I also don't believe in carry/range mags. If my mags are reliable enough for carry, they're also going to be range mags so I can spot and issues.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    I don't either. The best way I can think of is number or letter the mags...carry odd numbers for a month or two, carry even. Shoot them ALL at the range and if #3 gives the slightest hint of fucking up, get a new #3.

    That said..there is nothing worse than being at a class with someone trying all kinds of gear fag shit out. If you want to try something out and have it fail, do it on your own time.
     
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    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    I've heard that if you're really paranoid about it, you can unload a round or two (about 10% of the magazine) so the spring isn't fully compressed.

    I'm more concerned about the effects of constantly cycling the self-defense ammo if your magazine quanitity is limited, but I guess you really ought be shooting that stuff on occasion instead of letting it corrode slowly in a magazine.
     
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    JaimeZX Formerly of :Sep 2001: fame - Also: Sprout Crew OT Supporter

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    I saw an article where some Army guys were de-milling 1911A1s in the late 80s and they ran across a case of loaded magazines that appeared to have been sealed since the '40s. Took 'em out and shot 'em off without a hiccup.

    So if 60 years doesn't ruin mags, a few months should be okay. ;)
     
  16. GuiltySparc

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    hey thanks, awesome responses.

    First, i have a degree in mathematics and i was 2 courses short of another degree in natural science, so the bit about the spring constant and spring cycling was right up my ally.

    Second, i hadnt thought about the fact that i'll be shooting the gun at the range either weekly or bi-monthly, so the mags wont be full forever.

    Thanks for the tips, i'll be going the range again today to test out another potential "first" handgun. I shot the Sig 226 last time and today i'll play with a Springfield XD45. I think if i like the XD i'll pick it up without testing others. I really want a 45 and the XD has the highest capacity of any i've looked at (13+1). Also, i'm used to shooting 1911s, so i think the XD will be more familiar than the Sig was.
     
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    or the one round that should already be in the tube.
     
  18. GuiltySparc

    GuiltySparc OT Supporter

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    well after spending several hours and shooting 4 guns today (1 last week) i decided on the only gun that i didnt shoot. The sig p220 was out for service so i didnt get a chance to fire it. However i did shoot the 226 in 9mm, 229 in .40, a glock 35 in 9mm, a glock 17 in 9mm, and a springfield XD in .45 acp.

    I shot the XD first and imediatly did not like it. I might have just been me, the .45 seemed like more that what should be that pistol. THe recoil was much heavier than i wanted. As far as .45s go i'm used to 1911s. I liked how the gun felt in my hand but fireing it was not as much fun.

    Next i shot the glock 35 in 9mm. This thing is fun to shoot! I put up pretty tight groups and i am a novice shooter. I next shot the 17 in 9mm becuase i felt the 35 was just a little longer than what i was looking for. I liked the 17 a lot so i decided that i would look at the Sig 226 in 9mm (i shot this last week and enjoyed it) and the 17 and hold both and see which felt better in my hand.

    I ended up liking the feel of the sig better, however the store only had it in .40 and .357 (they had ordered some 9mm but had not come in). I had never shot a .40 before so i rented a Sig 229 in .40. I liked the way this shot but i felt the recoil was a little heavier than what i wanted so the store owner suggested i take a look at the 220. I've always leaned toward a .45 (hence the XD45 as my first gun). I did not get a chance to shoot it, however i loved the way it felt in my hand and given that i had shot the 226 in 9mm and the 229 in .40, i figured i had a pretty good idea what the recoil would be like.

    So anyway, to make a long story short, i ordered a Sig P220 with the Siglite night sights. Cant wait till next week! My first handgun, woo who!
     
  19. DaJMan

    DaJMan When i was young, i dreamed of being a baseball

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    thats the way you should buy a gun...! (except you didnt actually shoot the one u bought lol) but its close enough
     
  20. Platinum_Thunder

    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    Sig 220 is the least sturdy of the Sig line.
     
  21. GuiltySparc

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    least sturdy?
     
  22. Platinum_Thunder

    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    Yeah, they don't hold together as well as the 226/229s
     
  23. GuiltySparc

    GuiltySparc OT Supporter

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    mmmm, is that because of the cartridge? By that i mean, the gun takes more abuse from the .45's recoil than the 9mm. I would think Sig would make all their guns equally well.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    I would assume yes. .45 is a real mans caliber :mamoru:
     
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    You shouldn't be dissapointed with new sig quality... Though you could've waited a little bit until sig came out with the new Short reset triggers, though they may currently be shipping with them. I don't know. Lots of cool new things from Sig.
     

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