MIL Question about joining as a higher rank...

Discussion in 'On Topic' started by KillerRobotJews, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. I recently spoke with my friend who just got out of iraq, and he told me that I should request an army hand manual and brush up on things like map reading, the phonetic alphabet, etc... and then request a rank up when joining. (E2-3) Is there any truth behind this?

    Anyone know the exact name of the manual I should request?
     
  2. Julius

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    the recruiter has a check-list of shit you need to get down for E2. this includes general knowledge and a PT test. ask him/her for a manual that covers basic army stuff. in fact, you should already have one. there's not a specific fm/tm for it, it's just a generic recruit guide.

    you can only rank up once doing this. you can rank up again by referring a recruit, or you can move up twice by getting two referrals.
     
  3. widds2v

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    I did it for the navy. Was a small book that just required you to do a PFA, and then a board asking you general military questions... was asked to demonstrate facing movements, etc. Bumped up to E2 afterwards.
     
  4. teabagn

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    College credits is bumping me up to E2 for the Navy. Still gotta learn all the facings, ranks, and all that good stuff though.
     
  5. flytojungho

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    i thought college credits usually bump you up to e3
     
  6. Julius

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    thanks, i somehow completely forgot about that. 60 SH = E3, 120 SH = E4 in the army, or something like that.
     
  7. teabagn

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    24 semester hours for E2 and 48 semester hours for E3, at least for the Navy and Air Force
     
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    army is the only branch where you can enlist as an e4 (specialist) and thats only if you have a bachelor's.

    i think the marine corps will only allow up to an e2 even with a degree.
     
  9. widds2v

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    although you can join as an E3 in the Navy, get promoted to E4 in A-school, and if you joined at the right time of the year where your time in rate cutoff falls almost perfectly you can take the E5 exam with about a year in the military >< get EP's, put on E6 at 3 years, E7 at 5 years...

    would be a bit insane....
     
  10. evan2

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    Wow it is that easy to gain rank in the Army lol...No wonder there are so many high ranked enlisted in other branches who cannot lead for shit but have the rank.
     
  11. Julius

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    it's all good, i'm content with having E5 on my resume as opposed to being a 4 year lance or some shit like that
     
  12. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    Nuclear field usually hits that, 6-8 years for E6 and in some cases 8 year chiefs:eek3:
     
  13. nsxrebel

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    You can get promoted with 15 transferable units, JNROTC, being an Eagle Scout, referring 2 people, or being a guide in bootcamp. E-3 is the highest you can graduate bootcamp, and you'd have to be the Company Honor Man for that.



    Yeah, the other services hand out promotions like it's cool, but you're right , those people lack leadership skills for the most part. They are your Specialist(rank) in the Army and Petty Officers in the Navy. NCO's in those services are still considered GP.
     
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    Should hit it way before 8. I am taking E6 this fall at 5 years in.. which is right on with no EP (transferred to new command and only got a MP..:wtc:). If I would of stayed at my last boat would of been take E6 at 4.

    Lots of rates make E7 in 8.
     
  15. evan2

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    I worked for a Navy Chief once and man he was impossible. He thought he was god, we had to talk his ego down a bit as he worked with mostly AF.

    I guess you guys get the higher rank but we get the quality of life and lower rank. Sucks for me being in a small career field as its hard to be promoted
     
  16. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    sounds like they must've changed "Time in rank" requirements then. I remember it being harder to get to the Chief's test, let alone the selection board.
     
  17. apollotrance1

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    is this check list anywhere online??
     
  18. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    AF quality of life is a myth. All depends on where you are stationed, and your chain of command, it's not service specific.
     
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    Yea it was rought being in the AF, moving off base as an E-3 and getting $1100 month bah, spending 3 months in the Philippines getting $47 a day per diem, a month in Thailand in 5 star hotels getting $52 a day per diem, and never once having to share a room with someone!
     
  21. evan2

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    Give me a break....its a known fact....

    Everyone always loves coming to an AFB to eat because it is far better. The marines in Korea job about a mile every day just to eat at our chow hall.
    I went to tech school on an Army post as my Tech school *(A school) is there. It was horrible, your NCO dorms were our trainee dorms.

    3 to a room lol...

    I had my own room as an e1 when I got to my first base.

    The only reason the food out here in the middle east is good on the Army bases is because KBR runs the chow halls. The food at Ali is outstanding I will say that.
     
  22. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    I was in the Air Force.
     
  23. nsxrebel

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    I was in the Airforce too. Down in Little Rock AFB, they have some shitty barracks. I didn't stay in the barracks, I was at a Hotel right off base for the year I was there, but I did visit my young airmen at their barracks.

    It all depends on where you're at. Marine Corps Air Station Miramar has one of the newer barracks in the Corps. Place looks like a freaking university campus. I had my own room, walk in closet, etc..
     
  24. evan2

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    I know you were AF and you always want to start these lil things about how the Army is better.

    Lol Ive worked joint service many times and no branch gets treated as well as we do. Everyone says it, just not you.

    Dorms might of have been shitty to you but you are comparing old barracks to new one, come see the new quad style dorms Air Force bases are building.

    I live 4 to a tent while the army here at Ali if not in Chus are like 14 deep in one. You tell me that isnt quality of life right there. Army treats its people like shit, you might not see it because you are a fucking helicopter pilot and now some private who has a shit job.

    When I went to 7 level school at Ft Wood my Nco dorms was a room that shared a bathroom to one next to me.

    When I was an e1 going to a class at a different base, I had my own huge hotel room on an Air Force base.

    The dorms at Ft McCoy for your army guys coming home are WW2 style open bays, I know we stayed in them during CST. More great army billets...
     
  25. Nucleartiger

    Nucleartiger Clemson makes my nipples hard

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    my friends and I were eligible for the E-6 exam right at 5 years when I was in the Navy from 1995 to 2001. ET Nuke btw.

    The Air Force definitely has a better quality of life than the other branches. for example when I was stationed on the Enterprise out of Norfolk, Va the Air Force condemned a whole bunch of off base housing that it had been running. Called the building unfit for use. The Navy swopped in and bought the housing and started putting families into it without spending a penny on fixing them up.
     

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