protein & creatinine question

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  1. jayhat

    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Ok first off I dont know a whole lot about working out/lifting etc. I have been working out for about 3 weeks now.

    I am about 6' and 225 lbs. All I want to do is really lose some fat and gain some muscle in the process. I don't care about weight really, If i gain weight from gaining muscle oh well, as long as I loose fat.

    Currently I do about 45 mins. on the bike everyday (burn about 350 cals) and lift weights for about 20-40 mins after the bikes. Currently I do tri's and chest and the next day do bi's and back. I just alternate those. Also in addition to those I do some other random things.... all legs, abs, shoulders, etc. Those are just randomly mixed in to take a break between sets and stuff.

    Now on to my question, Should I take protein and creatinine to help out with gaining muscle or do I not really lift enough to need them? A buddy of mine said to go ahead with the protein, but hold off on the creatinine till I start lifting for longer periods of time (like if im not hitting the weights for more than and hour at a time my body would just store it and not really use it).

    So sorry for the newb questions, but what should I do??:hs:

    Also Im eating about 1500-2000 cals a day. I know it should be less but for now thats what im doing.
     
  2. jayhat

    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    oh yeah and im not trying to get real "brolly" either :hsd:
     
  3. Mogul

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    Take the protein but you should not need creatine at this time.
     
  4. Mitchj

    Mitchj OT Supporter

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    Agreed. Protein supplements simply help to make up for a diet lacking in protein (from traditional sources, such as fish, meat (chicken particularly) etc).

    Your muscles need protein and rest to regenerate, so it sounds like a good start. And i'm not exactly sure what you mean regarding your goals, you want muscle, but don't want to be too muscle bound, correct?

    Your not going to turn into a power lifter over night, so just work out for a year or so until you get to the point you are happy with.
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Ok cool. Thats what im going to do.
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Yes I'm not trying to turn into a power lifter or body builder, but would not mind being more muscular/toned.

    Will the protein help with soreness after lifting?
     
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    Mitchj OT Supporter

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    Depends. If the soreness is from overtraining it will help you recover, but people new to working out usually are sore after workouts.

    How often per week do you train?
     
  8. evan2

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    You should lift then do cardio, will help burn more
     
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    Also get more compound movements to help kick up your metabolism after leaving
     
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    :wtf:

    It should be more :eek3:
     
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    Genghis.Tron New Member

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    You can also EAT protein. Just get more meat and fish into your diet and you're set.
    Read the stickies and archies btw.
     
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    Well it's creatine you want to take, not creatinine.
     
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    take both creatine and protein if you aren't eating enough protein already

    why not take creatine on lift days at least, it helps it's cheap it won't hurt you, why not take it.
     
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    :werd: after eating 4000 for like 6 months, i can't imagine what it must be like to eat that little :eek3:
     
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    OK well there's a thread with like the same title somewhere in the first few pages, but w/e

    Hit the gym, do some cardio, eat good foods, supplement with protein, take a multivitamin.

    You don't NEED creatine, but do it if you want.

    And to save the next question get Optimum Nutrition whey chocolate protein.
    And to save the next question if you want creatine get ANYTHING YOU WANT. Twin labs monohydrate is fine.
     
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    while you're throwing out answers, got any recommedations for something comparable or better than primal n20? I've liked it a lot and i'm about to run out of the 5 dollar tubs. I like having a nice pre-workout pump
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Really? thats cool, Im going to start doing that.

    I guess it pays to talk to people who know what they are doing.
     
  18. jayhat

    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Well I'm pretty fat so I want to slim down (hence the low cal intake) and i'm not doing a whole lot of working out... I do about 1.5 hours a day and I try to do it every day (sometimes its only 5 or 6 days a week).
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Dammit, i used google to find the correct spelling and that is what it suggested (the first link said Protein to creatinine ratio so I thought it was right). :o:hs:
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    K thanks. Im sure I would have asked those questions sooner or later. I was actually going to head down to walmart to see what they had.

    Right now Im taking;

    fat burn pill -3 daily
    "Super" antioxidant pill (friend that works at the gym gave me a bottle so why not) -1 daily
    Multi vitamin - 1 daily
    Vitamin C - 1 daily
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Thats a lot of cals. Im sure I would just get fatter if I did that haha :hs::rofl:
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    thats what I was thinking, my friend told me I am not lifting long enough to need creatine and my body would just store it/not use it. I dunno :dunno:.
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    point taken.
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    Ok one more question for you guys about nutrition. Here are my food totals for the day. How do they look? Should I go for less carbs (maybe 100?)?

    CAL - 2073
    FAT - 86
    CARBS - 196
    PRO - 124


    Just and fyi this wasn't a good day had a couple things I shouldn't have, could have cut that by about 200-400 cals and less carbs. Yes I did read the nutrition sticky but I just want some opinions. Just for a refresh I'm not trying to become a body builder, just trim up and gain some muscle in the process.
     
  25. black jesus

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    just stay away from SCO and squats / deads / other compounds. I woke up one day and was really "broly" and its been tough as hell getting all this muscle off.
     
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