GUN Presidential candidates on the Second Amendment

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    Presidential candidates on the Second Amendment:

    If you take Second Amendment issues into account when deciding whom to support, or if you simply are interested how the candidates will likely fare with an important bloc of voters, here's a preliminary assessment of some of the people who have been listed as likely or definite candidates. As much as possible, the ratings are based on actions while in government, rather than on current rhetoric. Of course the list can also be read in reverse order, to assess the probable allegience of voters who are very strong gun control advocates. These rankings are subject to revision, as additional information is acquired.

    Top tier. Nearly perfect pro-Second Amendment records: Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas). Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.). Former Gov. Jim Gilmore (R-Vir.). Former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-Ark.).

    Very good. Not a perfect record, but still a very positive one overall. Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.). Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.). Former Gov. Tommy Thompson (R-Wisc.). Former Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.). Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.).

    Mixed: Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)(mostly positive record, except for lead sponsorship of two terrible bills: McCain-Lieberman, a badly-written bill which would have given the BATFE the authority to administratively eliminate any or all gun shows, and McCain-Feingold, the campaign speech restriction law which significantly affects right-to-arms groups).

    Poor: Former Gov. George Pataki (R-N.Y.). Former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.). As noted by, inter alia, the Boston Globe, Romney's flip-flops on guns are part of a larger record of inconsistency.

    Almost perfect anti-Second Amendment record: Former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.). Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.). Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). Former Vice-President Al Gore (in Congress, a nearly perfect pro-gun record until 1989, when he switched sides). Al Sharpton (D-N.Y.).

    Record of anti-Second Amendment leadership: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.). Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.). Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.)(very effective in pushing gun control during his tenure as Judiciary Committee chairman). Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio). Gov. Tom Vilsack (D-Iowa). Former Mayor Rudy Guliani (R-N.Y.)(even worse than his predecessor, Democrat David Dinkins; indeed, based on his record, arguably worse than Sen. Clinton).

    I don't know: Former Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Alaska). He has been out of Congress for 25 years, and I don't know his voting record from his 1969-81 Senate terms. Given that he represented Alaska, and that he was (and is) a fervent populist, I would be surprised if he had a record of support for gun control.
     
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    im voting for nader this time around. i know that bastard will be running. i almost wish the terrorists would just start targeting politicians. almost...
     
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    I think I'm going to vote for me this time.
     
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    Bill Richardson/Wesley Clark FTMFW
     
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    I wouldn't mind seeing Tommy Thompson on the ticket... but I'm required to say so, being from Wisconsin. :)
     
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    :coold: I'd love to see him ride his harley around dc.
     
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    Samuel L. Jackson for President :coolugh:
     
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    do NOT vote Richardson, he's the fucking devil, he's fucked this state up more than you could imagine.

    Socialist, and has said he would support an AWB, even tossed the idea of doing one in NM. The only thing he DID do was support CCW in NM
     
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    The mere fact that McCain did ANYTHING AT ALL with Feingold makes me question anything he'd do. Feingold (yeah, he's from here, too) is an arse. Scary guy.

    I've been prowling around online looking for any indication of Sam Jackson's political leanings. Other than his drug and alcohol problems (which don't seem to be a bar to federal leadership these days), I didn't find anything since his involvement with the Black Panthers back in the MLK days.
     
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    He would be a great choice. :bigthumb:
     
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    Is Charlton Heston still alive? I'd vote for him
     
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    I won't be wasting a vote on a democrat or a republican, I'll be voting for someone who stands for freedom.
     
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    I'd love to find a candidate like this :mamoru:

    Who, exactly, have you voted for, or plan to vote for, who falls under this category?
     
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    They are generally libertarians.
     
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    :bowdown:

    I just read most of his website, and a number of his "straight talk" articles. Is this guy seriously considering running? He seems to be exactly the kind of candidate this country needs right now.
     
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    Brownback speaks publicly like bush... it's scary.
     
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    I am voting 3rd party as usual. Neither party is any different anymore so the more votes 3rd parties get, the more funding they receive the next time around.
     
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    Too bad Suzanna Hupp (spelling?), the TX legislator, isn't running...I'd vote for her, and imagine: a PRO-2A WOMAN! that would F with the libs/antis so much...
     
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    winston churchill for president!

    can we vote for deceased non-citizens? :dunno:


    seems like the better option in this case
     
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    I am a big Obama fan at this point, however, I hate when it comes to gun control. There isn't a Republican worth a shit at this point. I hate that the Democrats are all for illegal immigrants, gay marriage, anti-gun, etc. But, I do like the majority of the other stuff. The Republicans are usually in your face Christians who always bring God into shit. They are all for war, they don't tend to stick up for the middle class, and they have ran this country into the ground over the last 7 years. The only thing I like about Republicans is that they are against gay marriage, they usually tend to support guns, and they are for securing our borders from the flood of illegals. The worst part of the Republicans,... is all the Patriot act bullshit that is slowly taking our American freedoms away. :(
     
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    What do you like about him? I hear alot of people say this but he's had a whopping 2 year national political career. I can't imagine wanting to elect him to the highest executive office based on that.

    Why would you possibly be against gay marriage either? Isn't hypocritical to want people to take their nose of your business of what guns you own but you re poking yours in about what naughty bits shouldn't be allowed to touch in a marriage and which can?

    I'm telling you guys the way to go is less government. The less government you have intruding on your life in every way the happier you'll be, but you'll have to let others be free too and not try to push your values on them to get there.
     

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