Possible to make decent gains w/out squatting? v.enlarged spleen

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  1. $shot

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    For the past ~2yrs I have had a severely enlarged spleen (seriously, it's fucking huge). When I squat, or do anything for that matter that crunches my abdomen area with too much pressure, it literally feels like my spleen might pop.

    I will probably eventually need to have it removed, but in the meantime, is there any routine which would allow me to make any respectable lower body gains w/out heavy squatting? I experienced pretty severe muscle atrophy throughout my entire body after the incident which caused my spleen to get it's current size (long story). I have since regained size in my upper body, but my lower body is truly pathetic.

    Any help would be appreciated :x:
     
  2. woot

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    try box squatting. even my 52 y/o 5'2" 95lbs mother can do box squats without aggravating her back or knees.
     
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    BoypussY game over.

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    yes, squatting isn't 100% necessary like some people make it out to be..esp if youre just looking to get big. A lot of guys here will go around saying "BRO..SQUAT OR DIE MAN..YOU CAN'T GAIN WITHOUT SQUATTING, ITZ LIKE THE BEST EXERCISE IN ZE WORRLDD!11!!!!!" but then they have skinnier arms than my sister.

    just stick to heavy leg presses ~10 reps 4-5 sets, lunges, leg extensions, curls, etc and you should see progress.
     
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    try to find something that does not hurt no idea what to recommend. i would be more worried about fixing my body if i were you. you can lift when you are better.
     
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    how the fuck do you get an enlarged spleen?
     
  7. BoypussY

    BoypussY game over.

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    You're a fucking retard. Leg presses, leg extensions, and leg curls are all worthless. Just because he can't squat doesn't mean he has to resort to using machines.

    To the TS, You should try doing bulgarian split squats or lunges while holding dumbbells to remove any spinal loading.
     
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    I'll never understand why people that don't understand something are always so quick to offer advice to others. I can't stand people like that.
     
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    Do leg curls and extensions and crap, it's not worth rupturing a spleen over.
     
  11. $shot

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    i do..and i do have some leg strength and some size i guess. they just are nowhere near proportional to my upper body
     
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    I would focus on getting the spleen taken care, because lifting should be a secondary concern if it is that serious.
     
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    - Leg Presses (if possible)

    - Leg Curls

    - Leg Extension

    - Heavy Deadlifts (if possible) mostly a back exercise, but when going heavy they hit the glutes and hams really well.

    - Light Lunges

    You don't "need" squats to build a solid lower-body.
    Lunges, Deads, curls, extensions are enough to promote growth if you're training hard and eating well.
     
  14. kilian

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    There is so much retardation in this thread.

    #1 If he just said he can't squat because pressure buildup hurts him, then WHY IN THE FUCK would leg pressing be a good idea, where there is a backing which builds up MORE PRESSURE on your body than a free-squat.

    #2 You can gain size fine with extension, leg curl, db lunges, bulgarian split squat, bb hack squat, and a number of other exercises.

    Just go 10-15 rep range and get that pump... blood volume ftw.
     
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    If you're just looking for increased mass, lunges, curls and extensions are all you really need.
     
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    why do you have 2y+ of spleen enlargement?
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Worthless for what dude? Plenty of guys have big ass legs and have never squatted and just do leg press, lunges, shit like that.

    RazoR is a skinny douchebag ugly troll but he's kinda right. Guess what man.. you also don't HAVE to deadlift to get a big back. Many BB's don't.

    I think you read too much t-nation.. yes squats and DL's are the best bang for the buck.. but there's a big diff. between seeking out just size or seeking out performance in a lift.
     
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    No, those exercises in particular are just bad in my opinion. If you want to hit quads, instead of leg extensions do split squat or lunges. If you want to hit hamstrings do deadlift or GHR. Leg press is bad for your lower back, and the gains from that exercise don't carry over to other exercises. I just don't see why anyone would choose to do those.

    Tom Platz didn't do leg press to get to where he is today.

    Edit: Article for those who care. And yes, I realize I'm responding to a criticism of reading too much TMuscle by quoting an article from TMuscle. But if you can explain anything that's wrong in the article I'd be happy to hear it.

    The Truth About Leg Extensions:
    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_...nce_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions&cr=

    Edit 2: Leg Curls are for Wankers:
    http://ericcressey.com/leg-curls-are-for-wankers
     
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    Pur built show ready legs on just extensions and leg curls.

    Do whatever you can to work around your injury and not make it worse
     
  22. SuperChode

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    That's a great argument dude. Tell me more.

    If you want to continue to do exercises that have lower muscle activation according to EMG results and are proven to be a greater risk factor, then go ahead.
     
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    i wouldn't say they are worthless as i have seen numerous vids of massive bodybuilders using these exercises, i guess they must not know what they're doing.
     
  24. dmaestro

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    :rofl: :ugh:

    Who's AE are you?
     
  25. SuperChode

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    Yeah man, I copied all my routines from Kevin Levrone's new blog too. Instead of telling me why they aren't worthless, why don't you tell me why they're better than any of those other exercises I listed. Obviously leg press, leg extension and leg curl are better for hypertrophy than doing absolutely nothing, but how are they better than the zillion other exercises out there.
     
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