porn sucks.

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  1. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    video-porn absolutely sucks. i don't even know what "market" porn makers are expecting to attract!

    1. every single body part except for the girl's vagina looks horribly, horribly fake. including things as fundamental as facial structure. not to mention hair, eyes, lips, nose, hair again because it's so hideous, and of course, breasts. (for some reason, this is not true in the case of still photo's. photoshop? better subjects? i don't care.)

    2. WTF acting. is it SO hard to come up with good actors? if you had a good actor with a less expensive body the porn would be 109092592x hotter. how hard is it to look like you're enjoying yourself? they're so disconnected from their actions that it's like watching a PAIR OF ANIMATED REAL-DOLLS fucking each other. i know it's your job, but how difficult is it to act sexy? (again, this is less of a problem in photo's)

    3. the Sneer. I'm at work (after hours), so I can't post a picture, but go ahead and browse through some pornographic images. I bet 1/4 have the Sneer. It's what happens when a girl is attempting to make an alluring expression while at the same time she is a horrible, wtf actress, so what ends up happening is she hoists her nose up like she smells a dead rat. If someone else could post an example of this I'd be very much obliged. I won't be getting home for a little bit.

    So those are the problems. horribly acted "real-doll" joyless sex. plastic faces. and the Sneer.

    This is all I ask:

    Get rid of "Male-Oriented" vs "Female-Oriented."

    Female oriented porn solves a LOT of the problems above. The acting is taken care of. Why, I don't know. But it feels like two real people in a room together. The bodies are also natural and more importantly, they LOOK natural. The Sneer is taken care of because the acting is taken care of.

    The problem? There's no actual sex!!!! It's almost perfect. It's just ... sexless!

    You know how in movies, there are sex scenes with characters that are really hot? The hottest lead-up to a sex scene can be found only in a movie, and it probably turns you on more than actual straight-up "porn" - the only problem is, it doesn't get you off, because there's no sex in Hollywood, only fade-outs. So no climax. Just the hottest first-two-minutes ever. I want a LONG, DRAWN OUT sex scene in the Devil's Advocate / Wild Things / whathaveyou. Not two minutes with lots of cuts.

    The funny thing is that GIRLS are not satisfied with this. Girls WANT the sex scenes. "Female-oriented" != "prude-oriented!" :rolleyes:

    It's so simple. Just combine the "female-oriented" approach with the "male-oriented" approach. How fucking complicated is that. The porn industry right now should be ashamed of itself for not thinking of this.

    And you're going to say that amateur porn solves these problems, and I agree that's true to some extent, BUT for the most part it's not great. Obviously. Because it's amateur.

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    Here's what's confusing to me. I know LOTS of guys are unsatisfied with porn because of the problems I mentioned above. And I know it's possible to make porn without those problems because of the solution I described above. So WTF don't we have (male+female)-oriented porn already?

    And if you're thinking, don't whack it, go get laid. That is definitely a problem for a lot of people in this forum, but, on the other end of the spectrum, porn's a VERY good thing, something you can enjoy WITH someone else. Or even by yourself, if you don't happen to have a pussy on hand that particular week, so be it, it's bad for you not to exercise your balls. (There's science behind that, I'm just phrasing it colloquially.)

    /rant
     
  2. Yuppy

    Yuppy Have a seat right there....

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    you watch too much of it.... look @ your lists...
     
  3. iwishyouwerebeer

    iwishyouwerebeer you shut your cunt Moderator

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    My bf uses the "spank bank," AKA his brain. He uses his imagination to dream up his own hot girls that aren't fake and produced.
     
  4. Ep

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    I can't believe you had so much to bitch about..... wow... acting? wtf, who cares
     
  5. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    a lot of people :hs:

    let me explain

    people find enjoyment in both parties to be an essential or very important part of arousal

    when it's obvious the people having sex are "just doing their job", it's no longer remotely appealing.

    have you ever had sex?
     
  6. iwishyouwerebeer

    iwishyouwerebeer you shut your cunt Moderator

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    I listen to Howard Stern every morning. He has a ton of pornstars on here and there and it makes me sad every time because once you hear them talk irl you hear how fake they are. He'll even play soundclips from their films and it sounds so forced and fake. I cant understand how men get off on that :ugh: Then again, a bunch of my guy friends said they turn the sound completely off; that I get.
     
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    Then stop watching it, nothing GOOD can and has ever come of porn.
     
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    g:\ -> videos -> scroll up and down / click -> ??? -> profit

    Really though.. You're being way too critical.
     
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    :ugh:

    Are you serious?
     
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    yeah that works too
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    perhaps you can elaborate on why you disagree with my description of some of porn's uses.
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    We agree. No "but." :)
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    I put "female-oriented" in quotes because what supposedly makes it "female-oriented" (the lack of climax) is exactly what females take issue with.

    'The funny thing is that GIRLS are not satisfied with this. Girls WANT the sex scenes. "Female-oriented" is being used (unwisely) as a euphemism for "prude-oriented!"'
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    I discussed amateur, it isn't great, I think the solution I came up with is better.
     
  15. Phantom Empress

    Phantom Empress mmmmmm tasty!!!

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    JJJ, why don't you start your own porn company and revolutionalize the industry if you feel so strongly as to write up this thesis?
     
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    so basically, you want hbo/cinemax type softcore acting with plots, but with penetration and climax?

    those movies were more common in the 70's and 80's. these days it's all gonzo-style where the focus is all on the sex. most guys prefer this type so that's what we unfortunately have. there are some niche "reality" sites which have some decent scenarios and sometimes good acting, but it's rare to come by simply because being able to act on cue and adlib while having sex with a guy you just met whom you might not even find attractive is not the easiest thing to do.

    like pe said, the best solution would be to make your own porn. :)
     
  17. Phantom Empress

    Phantom Empress mmmmmm tasty!!!

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    And here we see how he tends to communicate in more female terms: making connections and lookng for sameness. venting. where a more male approach would be to bring the idea to the table lookign for a solution.
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    I told you what I want, don't be so touchy.
     
  19. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    !

    What an interesting cold read.

    Yes, I should clarify that I'm not necessarily looking for solutions.

    I have already found the solution and I described it in my original post.
     
  20. Phantom Empress

    Phantom Empress mmmmmm tasty!!!

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    It's just what i gleenfrom your posts.

    also take notice that i'm in the midst of writing a Paper on Men and women's conversation styles/communication barriers from Deborah Tannen's view/body of work.
     
  21. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    oo rlly. that's cool
     
  22. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    what is a list
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    my second resort.

    i always admire guys who have visual cortexes that work like that.

    my sister's ex bf is this very talented artist.. he has one specific "perfect" girl he fantasizes about whenever he jerks it and he doesn't need porn because he can see everything in his head.
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    Oh yeah I also wanted to respond to this...

    I can write for 10 pages about something I'm even slightly interested in because it helps me put my thoughts together and I find putting my thoughts together enjoyable. I intentionally cut a lot of stuff out of my posts for the sake of people reading them.

    It's no effort, but obviously it comes across sometimes as though I'm REALLY REALLY invested in the topic at hand. In reality I just noticed this problem in pornography, I noticed it's widespread, and I noticed there's an obvious solution.
     
  25. Phantom Empress

    Phantom Empress mmmmmm tasty!!!

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    I understand that. It's why people blog or post.

    You just REALLY REALLY sounded SOOOO invested in the topic...

    Oh and I saw that Ninja edit
     

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