GUN Police taser man and his wife in a mall on xmas eve

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Police defend action after report of gun

    Man hit with Taser at mall

    Samara Kalk Derby — 12/25/2007 6:27 am

    Madison police scuffled with and then Tasered a 44-year-old man at lunchtime on Christmas Eve in the crowded food court at West Towne Mall. The man's wife also was struck by a Taser probe accidentally.

    Officers were sent to the mall just before 1:30 p.m. looking for a man with a gun, after someone at the mall called 911 anonymously. Officers arrived dressed in full military-style police gear and observed a man matching the suspect's description standing in the middle of the food court.

    Police attempted to make contact with the suspect, later identified as Major T. Lemon, and escort him from the crowded mall area. According to police, Lemon had his hand in his pocket and began to physically resist. At that point, officers took control of Lemon's other arm.

    Lemon allegedly then made statements that he was going to punch an officer. Based on the weapon information and Lemon's physical resistance, officers attempted to place him on the floor. Because of the wet, snow-covered tile, they were unable to take Lemon to the ground.

    An additional officer responded, observed the struggle, and deployed his Taser device. One of the probes struck Lemon and the other probe struck Lemon's wife. Both were secured in handcuffs. Lemon's wife was later released with no charges or injuries. No weapon was found on Lemon.

    Lemon made statements that he had a heart condition, so the Madison Fire Department responded and later took him to St. Mary Hospital's emergency room, where he was evaluated medically, cited by police for resisting and obstructing, then released.

    "Officers received specific information about an individual in the mall. They received clothing information and other types of information about this individual at the mall and that this individual had a gun. That's why they approached him," said Sgt. David Samson.

    The altercation happened in front of the gelato booth Paciugo.

    "I didn't think it was right. A bunch of people were in here shopping. There were kids in here," said Tara Emery-Walls, general manager at Arby's.

    Those eating in the food court quickly left their tables and scattered, she said.

    "It's not right to do that on Christmas," said Emery-Walls, who added that the police should have waited to talk to Lemon until he was out of the mall. "They don't have to bring that in here."

    A young woman working at Paciugo said the Italian ice cream stand was not busy at the time. Everyone was watching the incident.

    The worker, who wouldn't give her name, said she was slightly afraid and called the incident "freaky."

    She said the struggle lasted for about two minutes.

    West Towne Mall general manager Paul Matyas said his security officer was the one who identified Lemon for police.

    He called the incident an isolated situation. "We promote a safe and friendly shopping environment," Matyas said.

    Lemon has a long history of arrests, dating back to 1990. In that time, he has been charged with disorderly conduct nine times.

    In an interview Monday on WISC-TV, Lemon said he was unfairly targeted by police and was just out shopping with his family. Family members talked of suing the police department.

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    It obviously is an unfortunate incident," said Sgt. Samson, "but the officers have one of two ways of handling a situation like that. In either of those cases, the officers have to do something."

    He said officers can do what they did, which

    was make contact with the person and assess the situation. Or they could simply identify the person from the dispatcher's description and go in with guns drawn and order that person to the ground.

    "Obviously, with the lack of cooperation and resistance, that causes the officers to escalate to gain control of the situation,"

    Samson said
     
  2. Gimik

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    I don't see why he resisted. what good has resisting EVER done?
     
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    :rofl: Oh the ironing.
     
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    it's true! you're sitting in the mall and a cop comes up and says he has a report on you. if you fight him, it's just gonna make it worse :dunno:
     
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    Nah, I was just playing off your wording.
    We preach to never give in to criminals when they attack us, so essentially we're resisting, but then preach not resisting the worst criminals of all... the ones with authority. It's just funny.

    I do agree though. If you're doing nothing wrong, and they're not ATTACKING you, you really have no reason to resist the police. You're just going to make it worse for yourself.
     
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    wait, so one probe hit the dude, the other hit his wife? so they weren't even fucking shocked or something?

    Sounds like extremist anti-police/taser writer wanted to make this more shocking.
     
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    think about the situation, what is the guy had a ccw and was just out with his family? Some person calls police cause his daily carry flashes for a second.
     
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    This is why I'm not a fan of OWB carry, even if it IS legal. Which it is here. Too many problems.
    He, of course, made the situation infinitely worse for himself, though. And I don't feel a bit sorry for him about that.
     
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    Was this in Knoxville? There's a West Towne mall and a St Mary's hospital here :noes:
     
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    Everyones going to be anti taser soon. Cops use them too liberally.
     
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    The guy sounds like a dick. Who picks up 9 D/C beefs?
     
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    I wonder why the security guard actually thought he had a firearm. :dunno:
     
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    Bingo... that's what I was wondering too.
    Does the guy have some kind of beef with him, or was he trying to get back at him for something?
    Or did he genuinely think he saw a gun? Who knows Maybe the details will come out.
     
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    Just because it's Christmas doesn't mean the police shouldn't take tips seriously, especially after what happened at the other mall a couple weeks ago.
     
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    Very true. The cops are actually relatively decent in this story.
    They may have roughed him up a bit, but it sounds like he deserved it. People are just pansies and it needs to stop.
     
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    So what if the police saw the man, and did nothing, only to find out that he really did have a gun, and started shooting up the food court?
     
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    Fuck this country :ugh:
     
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    Dumb cunts would be the first to bitch about why they didn't respond right away. You can't win with haters like that.
     
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    Am I the only one picturing this woman as obese with real short blond hair and glasses.:ugh:
     
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    it's probably because of the mall shooting a couple weeks back... people are going to "see" guns everywhere now.
     
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    Officers arrived dressed in full military-style police gear

    and unless the man and wife were holding hands they werent shocked...which is too bad
     
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    Is open carrying illegal in TN?
     
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    If I were a cynical man, I would pose the theory that Lemon called the cops on himself to drum up a little Christmas cash. A grown man with 11 Disorderly Conduct arrests can hardly be considered above douchebaggery.:x:
     
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