A&P Pocket Wizard users of OT I have a question

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  1. SenenCito

    SenenCito OT Supporter

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    It seems I finally found the area where the CLS system is pretty useless (underwater photography) so I need to invest in a few of these, now my question

    I see on bhphoto two different of these

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...d_802450_MultiMax_32_Channel_Transceiver.html

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    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/441353-REG/Pocket_Wizard_801125_Plus_II_Transceiver_Radio.html

    1. if I wanted to use for example one in my camera, a sb-800, sb-600 and an sb-28, do I need to buy the more expensive one, or will the cheaper one work?

    and do the ebay alternatives ive read about work decently? all I want to use these is for underwater photography
     
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    Cheaper one will work (4 channels compared to 32) and i would stick with the pocket wizard brand. I have had excellent luck with them in the past and currently. I have the new set-up you have pictured (the transcever). Keep in mind you need 2 of those though.
     
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    hmm so that would mean I have to buy four of these fuckers..then figure out a way to put them underwater..yup, fun times

    thanks for the answer
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    radio transcievers in water is not very practical
     
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    how so? I mean its better than Ir right?
     
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    Just out of curiosity have you tried IR under water? How far of a distance are we talking?

    ahh yes i forgot you are firing 3 strobes. you will need 4 then. The more expensive one is designed for an enviroment where there might be more than 4 photographers using the slaves...say fashion or sports.


    because you dont think the signal will be strong enough or because it is an electronic device?
     
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    yeah I have tried underwater IR..it doesnt work right, I depend too much on keeping line of sight and I alreayd have a bunch of crap in front of the in camera flash and the flash itself.
     
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    The cheapo GI triggers wouldn't fire underwater at all.

    Camera in a bag only a few feet underwater, receiver above water with LOS (so the radio waves didn't have to try to go through concrete) and the flash wouldn't fire.

    PWs should be far more powerful. Let me know if you have any luck.
     
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    actually everything would be underwater..Im still thinking in how to get the flash and the received underwater but I believe I saw a decent tutorial on strobist on how to fix that problem.
     
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    well after reading some I finally understand why it doesnt work

    shit
     
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    Ouch. I was wondering how the radio frequencies would hold up underwater, but I have no authority to really comment on it.
     
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    Oh well, back to the drawing board again

    there has to be a reasonably cheap way to pop flashes underwater, buying ikelite flashes is damn expensive!!
     
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    Have you looked into a sound trigger?
     
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    How long a distance are we talking here again?
     
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    sound trigger? hows does that work

    and distance should be a max of 10 feet
     
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    PC cord? It would take a little engineering from your part but if you were confident you could have made a pocket wizard water tight then you probably could make it work.
     
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    Sound triggers trigger the flash by sound instead of radio waves :dunno:
     
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    Just use a pc cord. Its the most reliable way to trigger it under water and shouldnt be hard to do at all. Just run the cord through a hole in your housing and seal it with silicone or whatever. Then run the wire out of the water and attach you PW or optical trigger or whatever you'll use to the cord out of the water.
     
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    Yeah, that'll work too without spending too much money :cool:
     
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    werd radio wave propagation through water = :mamoru:
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    i would worry about sync delay if using a sonar based trigger
     

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