Pirated Software

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  1. Juvenall

    Juvenall What Would Juvie Do?

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    So I was wondering, how many of you run some sort of pirated software? Be it your OS or a simple application. Do you ever feel guilty about it/how do you justify it?
     
  2. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Only pirated software I have on here is a copy of VMWare running a pirated copy of XP. But I literally haven't used it in months, in fact I don't think I even have XP installed on it at the moment :dunno:
     
  3. korrupshun

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    Gentoo/FreeBSD systems currently.....GNU has my ass covered, no piracy worries for me :)
     
  4. P07r0457

    P07r0457 New Member

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    just remember that not everything on linux is gnu/gpl ;)
     
  5. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    Cedega is an example.
     
  6. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    True, but everything that is shipped with a distro is required to be (unless they include a separate CD with a separate license).
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    correct.
     
  8. shassouneh

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    I use mostly Open Source stuff on both Windows and Linux. Can't beat OpSrc really :p
     
  9. P07r0457

    P07r0457 New Member

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    I think for most packages that are open source, the closed source for-profit packages are better. For example, Adobe Photoshop is better than Gimp, and Microsoft Office is better than OpenOffice. However, the Open Source products do create good competition, and an exceptional value. If the for-profit versions arn't worth the cost to you, then the free ones definitely are the way to go.

    Open source also gives me a good reason to yell at people because "i cant afford it" is a worthless reason now-a-days.
     
  10. shassouneh

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    Good point. However, some Open Source is inferior to closed source for-profit for a reason. You really can't compare say the Gimp to photoshop since it was never meant to "compete" with photoshop. Similarly OpenOffice is similarly situated. It never intended to wipe MS Office off the map. The 2 examples you listed are of software that was created and meant to offer some functionality, but not overtake commercial software. Open Source was never intended to eliminate for-profit closed source.
     
  11. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Actually, I much prefer OpenOffice to MS Office. Using MS Office for any length of time (especially Word) makes me want to kill something. I can't comment on Photoshop since I've never used it :o
     
  12. 5Gen_Prelude

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    Yes. But I'm starting to wean myself away from it. There are some products that I can't get a hold of the author's to pay for some critical shareware.

    How do I justify it? I don't.
     
  13. Juvenall

    Juvenall What Would Juvie Do?

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    I lump software into two groups. Those that I need and those that I want.

    The first group is software I must have for work (such as Adobe/Macromedia's studio packages, CuteFTP..) or use all the time (Trillian, Opera...) I will pay for without question. My rule of thumb is if I use something to make money, I pay for it without regret (even if some of it vastly over priced).

    The second group are programs I want. These normally don't serve any function other then to see how they work or see if I can become better at it before I dive in and buy it. Often, a 30 day demo won't do the trick. In those cases, I have no bones about finding a crack/keygen to remove the limits. My own standards will prevent me from using this for any type of personal gain and if I end up using the program a lot or can find some business reason to own it, I'll pay.

    I don't feel bad about some of the stuff I've pirated over the years. 99% of the time, it's something I never would have paid for in the first place. So the argument about "lost profit" from me personally goes right out the door. What's more, if I do like the program itself, I will encourage others to check it out and buy it. I don't link or suggest where cracks/keygens can be found. One example is a thrid party flash program I really had no use for, but I had a copy of it anyhow. In the 4 months I was playing with it, I managed to convince 5 others to go out and buy it because they respected my opinion when I said this was something they could use. After 6 months or so, I paid for my own copy once I found a business use.
     
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    i take it your an advocate of "ethical piracy" then....
     
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    I do not own a single piece of software. I've pirated literally everything I've ever used.
     
  16. Zourn

    Zourn 16-bit Ninja OT Supporter

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    i'm kinda half-and-half, i will always buy certain important programs like windows (if that's what OS i'm using) or any program i actually do work with.
    If it's a game that's been out over 2 years or so, i don't want to have to hunt it down, so i just DL and crack it. if i really like it, i'll go buy it anyways. I do this with music too. I may DL a bunch of music, but if it's something i listen to a lot, i'll go and buy the CD anyways, i do it a lot.
    Often if it's a recent game and i want it but don't want to buy it, i will wait till an appropriate holiday and get someone else to buy it for me. Win/win situation there.
     
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    I've never bought a version of Windows that I've used other than what the computer had originally came with. I'd say I don't buy most things, other than games.
     
  18. Juvenall

    Juvenall What Would Juvie Do?

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    Yes and no. I still believe piracy is wrong, however I don't believe it hurts anyone if they never would have bought it otherwise.

    An example would be my younger half-brother. His father NEVER would have gotten him Warcraft 3 and since he's only 13 and has no income, it would be years before he could get it on his own. So he took matters into his own hands and downloaded a copy from Kazaa. Since the company that owns the rights to the game was not going to make any money from him, there's been no loss.

    I liken software piracy to sneaking into a concert. Since you never would have paid for the tickets, the artist and venue isn't going to loose any money by letting you in. However, at the same time, the artist is still preforming so they're working for you're freeloading ass. Did the artist loose anything? Hell no. Did you still take something you didn't have the rights to? Clearly.
     
  19. barnold999

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    Well.. Um, the venue does lose money... since there is a maximum ocupancy they can hold, and many concerts are sold out, thus this person sneaking in prevents a paid person from comming in (and yes, they really do track numbers)
     
  20. 5Gen_Prelude

    5Gen_Prelude There might not be an "I" in the word "Team", but

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    Umm what? They don't keep track of people sneaking into a concert - if they did, they'd kick em out! And don't tell me there's someone in the catwalks doing a head count!
     
  21. Rob

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    "Hi...I am sneaking into your concert without paying but I still want to make sure I am counted so you don't go over your occupancy, thanks"

    :rofl:
     

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