Picking chicks up online

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  1. LS1>

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    So many of you may remember my post about the girl I had been dating who was a cheating whore who said she was raped. For thos that remember the verdict is still out on if it really did happen or not.

    SO since that time I have tried to get back into the game. I have had some major crash and burn sessions. I have gone out by myself to bars, clubs, casino and I have even tried to lay some napoleon dynamite moves on chicks at the mall.:mamoru: I have tried everything in my arsenal and I have come up empty. I met the whore off myspace 2 years ago and I never had any problems talking to chicks or starting convos on myspace. I did it very well actually. My profile has remained almost unchanged and any msgs I send women on myspace get almost zero responses. I joined match.com about a month ago and have done the winks messages ect but yet again. I have not had any response for women on the damn website. I have racked my brain over and over on what my messages are lacking. The stuff I have used before just wont cut it anymore. I would like to know what you guys use and what do you women like to hear? My elife and real life are netting almost zero results.

    I will say since my last post I have been in somewhat of a depression. Not really over what happened but, work has me stressed to the max and I guess being single I don't have an outlet to ease it. Even with that on my mind I think I hide it pretty good when I am out and about trying to score some digits and I don't think you could even tell on myspace or facebook. Like I said I think I hide it pretty good. I just don't know anymore. I am burned out from going out and thought I could pick up with my eskills. I think being in a relationship so long this dog lost all his skills. Help Help!:sadwavey:


    On one last note. I started talking to a girl I went to grade school with years ago on facebook. We have had some good conversation and I have been turned down twice to hang out. I tried to be skillful and pull her in with meeting up to talk about old times. Yet fail was the result.:wtc:
     
  2. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    buy david deangelo's double your dating. buy magic bullets from the mystery method. You don't need a myspace method or something like that that will catch a single fish for you to put a bandaid over the cannonball wound of not knowing how to get girls on a consistent basis. It is clear from your post that you are shooting in the dark (although MASSIVE, MASSIVE ups for trying, which is more than 99% of people do) and don't know what does or doens't attract women; and you are just doing things randomly and not really knowing how to change up your approach to improve your results. you have a destination, and you have the fuel, but you don't have a map. you need to know how to get the girls you desire, and be confident in your ability to do so. those books will tell you how to do it. also, check out the sticky in the archives section and read every post by me and my former name jkidd5. g'luck.
     
  3. ww_Crimson

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    I'm a bit in the same boat as you man. I find that a lot of the girls that are attracted to me / express interest, I'm not interested in. The ones I'm interested in, aren't interested in me. It's just a matter of time and persistence I think. You have to remember that in the "online world" there is a ridiculous number of men compared to woman. For every message you get, a girl probably gets 20-30.
     
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    Yea tis true. The only ones I have gotten as of late are ones that I have zero intrest in. I got a wink from a 44year old non milf:eek4:.

    On a side note I just have this feeling my depression has something to do with this. Maybe I am trying to justify my feelings I dont really know.
     
  5. Viper

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    Wow, I can't believe I am fucking saying this, but ware_ru is right. Well, he's right, but he's only presenting half of what you need to do.

    Here's my reading suggestions for you:

    The Mystery Method
    Double Your Dating by David Deangelo
    The Book of Pook
    How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
    How to Talk to Anyone by Leil Lowndes
    No More Mr. Nice Guy (can't remember the author off the top of my head)
    The Four Agreements by Don Miguel *something* (can't remember his last name)

    Some fiction to read where you can analyze the main characters and walk away with some important personality "types" to look up to:

    A Million Little Pieces by James Frey: Regardless of embellishments or whatever, this book is an amazing read and you can take away from this book his stubborn, stand up and fight type of attitude. You gotta be strong and hold on...that's the moral of this book and hearing him describe that is inspirational to someone like you who is struggling in the dark.

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    Ok, so there's the reading list for you. Study that shit religiously. Take it in, really focus on what they are telling you and incorporate the parts that speak to you personally.

    The other half of the equation involves fixing what's causing your depression. My guess is that you are reeking of desperation and women can absolutely smell that on you. Believe it or not, depression and things that are fucking you up in other areas of your life are going to spill over into your interactions with women.

    Go out and find a job that doesn't stress you out. Take like by the fucking nutsack. Go out and make yourself happy. Learn how to be happy with YOURSELF and your FRIENDS first. Decide what you want and go after it. Remember that you are NOT out to pick up women every place you go. The mall, the supermarket, etc. are NOT prime places to pick up women, so don't go to these places expecting success. Seriously, women are there mainly because they have other shit they want to do and they are going to be WAY harder to pick up and frankly, with someone who has limited pick up skills, you are going to crash and burn more than you find success at these places. Start in simpler places like bars and clubs (like you have been doing) and keep your focus there until you meet success.

    Places like the mall and the supermarket are great places, however, to work on your PEOPLE skills. In general. They are great places for you to start small convos and to meet and approach EVERYONE just to talk with no particular goal in mind. Both men and women.

    The idea is that it seems to me like you are making your entire life about picking up women, and man, that's no way to fucking live. Go out and enjoy life. Go out and have fun and relax and take your focus off of picking up women and just be natural and fun without having a "goal" of getting with a woman in the back of your head at all times (oh, I'm going to take flack for THAT, but it's the truth).

    Your life doesn't revolve around women. Just get out. Have fun. Approach. Be laid back and relaxed. Join a club, play a sport, do SOMETHING you are interested in and stop worrying so much about picking up girls. The more natural and relaxed you are, the more success you are going to find. When you meet a girl you like, THEN go for it. Don't just push yourself to approach for the sake of approaching. View yourself as the prize. As a good catch. And stop supplicating to the girls you meet and revolving your life around picking them up.

    I know mine is not a popular opinion here, but at the end of the day if you follow this advice you are going to find yourself HAPPY. And that's the key...you can't just go out and approach as a depressed, stressed out mess. You gotta be happy with yourself first, before you can expect someone else to be happy with YOU and give you a shot. So fix what's making you depressed.
     
  6. DTR rex

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    Perhaps you are just trying too hard and that is making it seem like the rejection is a lot more frequent than it really is.

    First thing I noticed is that you're looking in the wrong places. Girls don't go to bars and clubs to meet guys. They go to socialize with friends and dance, non of which have anything to do with you. Even if you did pick up a girl in a bar/club, chances are high she is a girl not worth your time.

    It's only been a couple of months and you are trying so hard to find a girl already after just getting out of a 2 year relationship. Try some of the suggested readings, take a step back, don't try so hard, and let thing occur with a more natural flow.
    And girls can tell if you are lacking confidence/depressed, so buck up, wear a smile, and have some confidence.

    Try meeting girls at events, on a college campus, book store, etc...
    Also, look to your friends to help you meet new girls, because they probably know people, or your friends g/f does, or your female friends will have friends, etc.. etc...

    And if you must go to a club/bar don't go alone. Most women travel in packs and you're better off having a couple buddies to occupy the group of girls rather than just you approaching them.
     
  7. Viper

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    You sir, are completely and totally wrong about this.

    I can't tell you how many girls have flat out told me in conversations that "going to the bar is all about finding a man for the night".

    Bars and clubs are the NUMBER 1 place to go to pick up women, because single women at a bar are THERE TO GET PICKED UP. Yeah, maybe not ALL of them are, but I can garauntee you that a great many of of them most certainly ARE there to meet guys.

    You may be right about it not being a good place to find a quality woman, but it's most definately a GREAT place to pick up a girl for some sex or a hook up.
     
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    By "meeting" girls I was more referencing a girl that you could engage yourself in meaningful conversation with and perhaps form a relationship... That seems to be what the OP is looking for.

    I've never seen a "good" relationship develop from two people meeting at a bar or club. I am sure it happens, but it's not probable.

    You are right, picking up a one-night-stand at a bar or club is doable... Many women go out because they 100% just wanna hookup with a guy whether its making out with him on the dance floor or having sex for a night.

    But meeting a relationship material girl at a bar/club usually doesn't workout well... Especially at my age (22) because most go with their friends to just drink and dance and maybe wouldn't mind a quick hookup but would rather not having 100 guys trying to take them home.
     
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    DTR rex you're from Chi-town! You should be tearing up the bars!

    I'm with Viper on this one.
     
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    I do man!

    I go to DePaul University which is in Lincoln Park (the biggest bar scene in Chicago).
    I'll bar crawl Lincoln Park and sometimes head to clubs like Enclave, Crobar, Sound-Bar, etc..

    But I am not the type of guy to troll for random chicks. I am very particular these days, and will only bother with a girl if does something that peaks my interest or gives me reason to believe she is worth my time. At my age, way too many of them are just drunken wh0res that cannot hold a decent conversation, lol.
     
  11. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    shut up dtr rex, you are 100% wrong. just 100% wrong. your own limiting beliefs are holding you back. 99% of girls goto bars and clubs; the only ones that don't are super nerds/med students who simply lack the time to go. how many girls have you met in a bar or club and actually picked up, fucked, and tried to build a relationship with? 0? sounds right
     
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    if you are already spending as much time as you can out in the field and still want more dates, sure, do the online thing.

    but don't resort to the online thing because its "better" (its not).

    when you have your shit together its MUCH easier to get women in real life vs. online.
     
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  14. iwishyouwerebeer

    iwishyouwerebeer you shut your cunt Moderator

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    Everyone is tired of you constantly trolling in threads just to point out that someone is "wrong" because they don't feel the same way you do. Watch it, or I'm going to delete your posts :dunno:
     
  15. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    everyone is tired of you putting your biases into your moderatorship :dunno:
     
  16. iwishyouwerebeer

    iwishyouwerebeer you shut your cunt Moderator

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    We can be outcasts together :bigthumb:

    Seriously though, there's absolutely no need for you to continuously quote users just to point out that they are wrong in your opinion and are therefore idiots. Please cut it out.
     
  17. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn i don't understand why we have to go through this all the time. it's not my OPINION that they are wrong, it is OBJECTIVE FACT and there is a massive difference between the two, and the reason i do it is that they are spreading not only false but also harmful information and how is anyone supposed to get laid when that sort of thing is happening
     
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    iwishyouwerebeer you shut your cunt Moderator

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    Opinion. You can disagree with them all you want, I disagree all the time with people in here. But there's no reason for you to do it in such a hostile way like you are trying to embarrass them.
     
  19. Doc Love

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    You've become the troll on this forum more than anyone else. You give people shit uselessly, just to show you have power, whatever. If this is your ego trip, you need help.
     
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    The bar is a perfectly fine and normal place to meet women. Saying that you won't meet the relationship type of person at a bar is absolutely ridiculous. All types of people can be found at bars and clubs. Anyway, the #1 quality to have in my opinion is to be fun. Tease, laugh, show women a good time, and they'll want more of you.
     
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    You = Beast = ware_ru

    You have no business telling anybody what trolling is.

    I agree with beer.

    I agree with ware a lot of the time actually, but man, he has no people skills whatsoever.
     
  22. Doc Love

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    This is a forum, you take shit way too seriously. Grow a pair and don't be stressing all the shit that happens here.
     
  23. Viper

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    I don't stress over it. :dunno:

    It is a rare thing that something on here actually makes me angry, even if my posts come across that way.

    The only thing I can think of that's made me angry or upset here that's happened in the last few months is that guy who suggested slipping your girlfirend a pill to abort her baby.
     
  24. jmezz

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    There's no magical place to meet a decent girl. I hate how everyone says to meet a girl at a grocery store or some other place that doesn't seem like an obvious whore hangout.

    Just because a girl is at the grocery store, or a bookstore like previously suggested, doesn't mean she is a quality girl. There's good girls and whores everywhere. If a girl is at a grocery store, she could be getting supplies for a gangbang party for all you know. Same with a bookstore, she could be looking for the newest edition of "How to Suck Cock like a Champ: Spitting and Deepthroat edition."

    There's no magical place. You need to visit all types of places and truly finding a good girl is really the luck of the draw.
     

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