GUN Perspectives: 'Sudden Jihad Syndrome' - A reason to carry firearms for self-defense

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Perspectives: 'Sudden Jihad Syndrome' - A reason to carry firearms for self-defense
    Larry Pratt - Guest Columnist OneNewsNow.comMarch 8, 2007 Larry Pratt - Gun Owners of America

    I have compiled (quite easily, I might add) a list of murders and attempted murders carried out by Muslims acting on the basis of what the founder of Islam taught them.
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    Convinced that they will go to heaven if they die killing infidels who Mohammed taught his followers to hate, some Muslims don't bother joining al Qaeda or some other organized band of thugs. They get so filled with hatred from hearing Islamic sermons and visiting jihadi web sites that they decide to become freelance Jihadis.

    The condition is recognizable and has been labeled Sudden Jihad Syndrome (SJS) -- although some people are unable, or unwilling, to recognize SJS. Politically correct spokesmen for the FBI and other agencies seem to be under orders to issue a denial that a SJS-related murder could possibly have anything to do with Islam.

    The rest of the population should come to grips with the fact that many in America are susceptible to SJS. The best antidote for many SJS-related acts of terrorism is a bullet fired from the gun of a prospective victim.

    The following list is offered to show that SJS is a reality, and that rational Americans should be prepared to deliver the most effective known antidote – a bullet administered at the first sign of an outbreak of SJS.


    * March 1994 – Rashid Baz, a Muslim from Lebanon, opened fire on a van containing members of the Lubavitch Hassids in Brooklyn. One was killed.

    * February 1997 – Palestinian-born Ali Abu Kamal opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State Building, killing a tourist and injuring six other people before committing suicide. His daughter, Linda Kamal, said in 2007 that the family is tired of lying and admitted that a letter had been found on her father's body explaining his Muslim hatred for Israel and America.

    * July 2002 – Egyptian-born Hesham Mohammed Hadayet walked into the Israeli Airlines El Al terminal at the Los Angeles airport and began shooting Jews. He killed two and injured another four. He was known to sympathize with al Qaeda.

    * September 2002 – Patrick Gott killed one and wounded another in the New Orleans airport. He had entered the terminal with a shotgun and his Koran.

    * October 2002 – John Mohammed and Lee Malvo killed 13 people in the Washington, DC area. Both were converts to Islam and had attended a jihad training camp in southwestern Virginia.

    * August 2003 – Mohammed Ali Alayed almost totally decapitated his erstwhile Jewish friend, Ariel Sellouk, following Alayed’s getting serious about his Islamic faith. He went to a mosque after killing Sellouk.

    * October 2005 – Joel Henry Hinrichs III, a convert to Islam, was an engineering student at Oklahoma University. His student career ended when a bomb he had strapped on himself went off prematurely outside a crowed stadium, killing only himself. Police subsequently cleared explosives from the apartment that Hinrichs had shared with Muslim students from Pakistan.

    * April 2006 – Muslim Ayhan Surucu was so angry when his sister started to wear make-up and date men in Berlin, Germany, that he put a gun to her head at a bus stop and killed her. Boys at a nearby school, attended mainly by the children of immigrant Muslim families, cheered and applauded when news of the murder reached them.

    * May 2006 – Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, a University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student, rented an SUV and drove it through a crowded part of the campus-- intentionally trying to hit people and wounding nine. In a series of letters to the student newspaper, he explained that he acted in obedience to Koranic dictates.

    * June 2006 – Michael Ford, a Muslim convert, walked into work at a Safeway warehouse in Denver and opened fire on his coworkers, killing one and injuring five. Relatives explained that he was being teased at work because he’s a Muslim and he could not take it anymore.

    * July 2006 – Naveed Alzal Haq, a Pakistani, walked into the Jewish Federation Center in downtown Seattle and shot six women-- killing one, and wounding five( one of whom was pregnant). He stated matter-of-factly: "I am a Muslim American angry at Israel."

    * August 2006 – Omeed Aziz Popal, a Muslim Afghan refugee, used his SUV as a weapon and ran down at least 14 people and a bicyclist in the San Francisco Bay area. He was targeting Jewish neighborhoods to terrorize.

    * January 2007 – A 22-year-old Muslim, Ismail Yassin Mohamed, stole a car in Minneapolis and rammed it into other cars before stealing a van and doing the same, injuring several drivers and pedestrians at crosswalks and on sidewalks before police caught up with him. Mohamed called himself a "terrorist."

    * February 2007 – Ibrihim Ahmed, a Nashville cab driver and Muslim, was enraged that two passengers did not agree with him about Islam. When they got out of the cab, he tried to run them down, striking one in a parking lot.

    * February 2007 – Sulejman Talovic, a Bosnian Muslim immigrant, went to a Salt Lake City mosque on a Friday night. Then he went to one of only two malls in the state which prohibits civilian carrying of concealed weapons. He killed five before an off-duty cop (not subject to ban) used a concealed firearm stopped his murder spree.


    Cornell University did a study estimating that there are seven million Muslims in the U.S. If even a single percent of that population is motivated to go kill a few infidels for Allah, the country would be facing 70,000 murderers on the loose.

    The examples that I have found of Islam being the driving force for murder show that the prospect of Sudden Jihad Syndrome should be reason to loosen the country’s concealed carry laws. The Utah Jihadi did not have a concealed carry permit, but he carried his weapons to the scene of the crime concealed anyway. Why should the laws make it harder for the rest of us to counter what criminals are already doing?

    Put another way, our current restrictions on concealed carry on the books in most states facilitate murder by tying the hands of victims.
    The law should be on our side, not on the side of the bad guys.
     
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    I'd be interested in hearing more on this idea of SDS, but I would also be interested to see the murder rates for each religion in the US as well as the historic crime rates for each group, to see if islam actually is higher or if SDS is actually having an effect.

    As a bunch of pro-gun people we know that facts can be made to say many different things, even if they aren't true, its all in how you present them. I'd hate to find out that this is has no basis in crime rates and is just using emotional examples and sterotyping as well as a playing on people's fear to advance a pro-gun agenda.

    It seems like a concept that is within the range of possible for SDS to be a real occurance. It is also in the realm of the possible for SDS to be right next to "cop killer bullets", "assualt weapons kill cops" and "there is no place for a terrorist riffle in dear hunting."
     
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    While all of those anecdotes are interesting examples, the plural of anecdote is never data. Instead of singling out an entire religious group, which by the way is what I consider to be a very un-American thing to do, why not include all acts of public violence that could be prevented by an armed citizen? Your argument would become much stronger and less people would dismiss you as a bigot.

    Furthermore, even if statistical data shows that Muslims as a community are more likely to partake in acts of mass, public violence, I don't know if relaxing ccw laws would be the best way to handle the problem. Excepting for certain states and areas, citizens can still get a license for the most part and need not ostricize 7 million people in the process. If anything, it'll only make Muslims more milltant and give those that alreay dislike America more fuel for the fire as they now have proof that as a country we are hostile to the Islamic community.
     
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    I've heard lots of stuff about christians murdering as well :dunno:

    Faith-based people can be scary.
     
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    Not faith-based.. extremists is the term you're looking for.

    And public acts of violence and attempts on lives could be stopped by a single citizen who takes responsibility and can stand up and say "No." That no can be emphasized even moreso with a firearm.
     
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    I suppose only the extremists are very scary, but the whole thing is pretty creepy to me. Faith-based people are strange to me - They believe things that can have no proof, that can never be proven, that they do not know (but believe they do). They're willing to kill and die over it. It's impossible to reason with them, as their beliefs are not based on logic or reason or knowlege. It's pretty scary to me.

    Even the most benign person of faith can have that faith used to do wrong (or so it seems) in the name of that faith.
     
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    I disagree. It is faith-based. If it was just extremists, you would hear a widespread condemnation of terrorism by normal muslims, but you don't. Just like you would have heard a public outcry from Catholics after the sex abuse scandals, but you didn't, you got a cover-up instead. By not speaking out against such actions on a large enough scale to actually be heard, terrorism is being implicitly condoned by Islam as a whole.
     
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    It's actually both together. I think of them as faith-based extremists. Another term that comes to mind, and is likely more common, is religious zealots. Doesn't matter which God they pray to, they're all dangerous on some level.

    I moderate a religion subforum elsewhere... see it a bunch. Extremists come in all faiths, none of them have a drop of tolerance for anyone else's beliefs, and they're all willing to go frighteningly far for what their holy book/holy man/holy dinner tells them to do.
     
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    People need to be careful trying to blame religion for the actions of these types of people. It's the people who twist religion into something that's not and use it to harm other people that's dangerous, not the religion itself.
     
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    Aye, you can't pin human behavior on one aspect of that human's life. Just like rock music didnt cause columbine, Islam didnt cause the fight that Islamists are fighting now. Its a combination of poverty, disinfranchisement, isolation, charisma (on the part of the Islamist leaders), greed (on the part of the merchants who sell items to Islamists), and a sense of duty (on the part of mujahiden).

    Please do not read that last part as being pro-terrorist. I'm simply stateing that its out of a sense of duty to one's faith, land, and people that many of the mujahiden believe and act on what they are told by islamists.

    Its not Islam that makes the mujahiden what they are, its the culmination of their life experience combined with the current global situation as expressed by their religous leaders.

    Does this mean we shouldn't kill them but should instead try to understand and reason with them? That is absolutely not what i am saying, simply that if we continue to see them as simple, crazy maniacs, we will never understand them well enough to develope effective martial and political policy to combat the threat they pose.

    Any book or essay written by Mike Shueuer is a great place to start learning about Islamists and how they look at America.
     

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