Well im about to give up. I have a belkin f505020 16bit notebook network card. I've tried gentoo 1.4; suse 8.0, 8.1, 8.2; mandrake 9, 9.1; redhat 7.2, 7.3, 8.0, 9.0; freebsd 5.0; and prolly more that i forgot about. I also edited the etc/something/pcmcia (i think?) file or maybe it was the driver file (i forget, i put this off a couple months because ive been so frustrated with it) to add in the belkin network card (dir's came with the network card (and i read about 400 pages worth of linux hardware books + many-a-page or manual), although even though free help was too, they said they only help set it up on windows ). so anyway, any help you could give is appreciated. thanks.