PC or Mac

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  1. rightdownupleft

    rightdownupleft New Member

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    So I'm going to school here for some digital shit. Production (sound audio visual). I want to get a laptop, something that will work right. I know before people used to say Mac was good for editing and that shit. Is it still true? What should I go with ??

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  2. Swerve

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    PC. More bang per buck.
     
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    depends on the field. Software in that industry is so one-sided, and the side they choose depends on the company.

    first determine what software you want to use to get things done... That will determine your platform.
     
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    Since you just want your computer to do your work - a mac is obviously the way to go. They just WORK, and are used for the kind of work you are doing.
     
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    /socialist_propaganda

    Notice that the vast majority of businesses that do WORK do not use the Mac. :mamoru:

    /cheeky_response
     
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    mac with bootcamp
     
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    depends, how much of your work are you planning on doing inside a starbucks?
     
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    buying a mac to run windows is flat-out retarded.

    you can get a comprable pc for half the money.
     
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    But their computers don't JUST WORK'. In fact, they all have to run anti-virus software constantly, anti-spam, and reinstall the OS on a regular basis. Kind of like most of hte questions in this forum - how do I unfuck my windows computer?

    He is into media - so a Mac is a no brainer. Most offices that DO WHAT HE DOES use Macs. And with a Mac, he won't have constant downtime, virus problems, etc. His computer will just work.

    So its a no brainer.
     
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    you have to be the most opinionated person on c&p, and not in a good way.
     
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    truth hurts, son.

    You can get a $300 pc that's essentially comprable (does 90% of what 90% of users want it for) for half the cost of a mac mini.

    you can get a $600 pc notebook that does 100% of what the macbook does (and more) for half the cost of the macbook.

    etc.
     
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    Mac. I switched about a year ago. Haven't used my PC since.

    It's so nice not having to worry about the bullshit that you deal with on a windows box.. viruses, worms, malware, etc. I don't have to format and reinstall OS every 6 months.. I could go on and on..
     
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    yea, but I'd have to have a mac pro to get the same features in my pc.... and I'm not spending nearly $3k on that.
     
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    Time is money, so a Mac easily pays for itself by saving your time on pointless maintenance.
     
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    i can't really recall the last time I did any signifigant maintenance. my AV product updates itself while I sleep. Defrag is done when I sleep. I basically just use my machine.

    Granted I do like OS X. I'd like to run it. But I can't justify 2-3x the cost just for a pretty OS.
     
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    OSX is nice. i can't personally say that i found it more stable than my PC running XP. i actually found that it crashed a hell of a lot more, especially after i went to leopard, but it was mainly crashing when i was running some sort of virtualization (Parallels or VMWare Fusion running XP).

    oh, and to potty's point, you aren't going to get a comparable laptop to a macbook for $600. at that price point, it is going to be thicker, heavier and probably not as fast, even though the specs on the box match.


    mac pro is awesome, but really too much computer for about 95% of the population. apple should have a normal user non-all-in-one system. i'd love to get a mac with the iMac's power, but without the built in monitor.
     
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    I'll scan an add from Office Depot, in a minute. Lest someone complain about copyright infringement :hsugh: It's not the best ad I've seen, but it's the only one I have on my desk... And although the machines don't match 100% with the macbook, several exceed in a few areas to compromise in others. And overall, they do 99% of what 99% of macbook users want, plus a little more, and they are nearly half the price.

    That's the apple philosophy. They want to hit the low-end and the high-end. That forces most people to "upsell" themselves and pay out the ass for something they don't need.

    Honestly Apple could add a mid-tower version of the macpro using core2duo/core2quad and discrete graphics, stata 3.5" hard drives, 5.25" optical drives, etc, etc, and it would add very little overhead to their business model. In return, they'd get a LOT more business.

    I think apple doesn't want to become much more popular. They want to remain a niche product.
     
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    All thats great, but from this guy's perspective:

    1) He's getting into video and media - so Apples are what his peers use.

    2) If he buys an Apple he doesn't have to worry about his computer breaking.

    That is a strong value proposition compared to a PC.
     
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    yes, thats what sucks about apple products. although you can get some great deals on apple refurbs
    its too bad that apple will never offer its operating system, without tethering it with hardware. obviously it would make the operating system cumbersome because it would have to support that much more hardware etc.
    i do know that you are completely against setting up a hackitosh, so that is not an option.

    i have a feeling that they will eventually offer a midsize tower, dvr, and tablet...
     
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    MAYBE. Read my first response. I told him to determine what software he's gonna be using, because THAT will dictate his platform. Some software works best on Mac. Some works best on PC. Photoshop, is much better on the PC, and has been for a few years, for example.

    Mac's break. That's why Apple has "genius bars". PC's break. They all break. Use the right tool for the job.
     
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    Give us a break - the support time for Windows users is SO much higher its not even funny. Look at the threads in this forum.

    As to photoshop - No, its better on the Mac.
     
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    science says otherwise :mamoru:

    I'm pretty sure even Adobe has officially stated it.
     
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    this is a bit off-point, but I said I'd provide some ad's showing machines that are targeted at the same crowd that would be well-served by a macbook.

    2GB memory
    200GB hard drive
    DVD Burner
    Vista Home Premium
    Wifi
    Webcam
    17" notebook
    $599
    [​IMG]

    3GB memory
    160GB hard drive
    DVD burner
    Vistal Home Premium
    Wifi
    Bluetooth
    15.4" notebook
    $599
    [​IMG]

    2GB memory
    160GB hard drive
    DVD Burner
    Vista Home Premium
    Webcam
    Wifi
    12" tablet/notebook hybrid
    $699
    [​IMG]

    3GB memory
    160GB hard drive
    DVD burner
    Vista Home Premium
    Webcam
    Wifi
    14" notebook
    $499
    [​IMG]

    4GB memory
    250GB hard drive
    DVD burner
    Vista Home Premium
    Webcam
    Wifi
    Bluetooth
    14" notebook
    $799
    [​IMG]

    2GB memory
    120GB hard drive
    DVD burner
    Vista Home Premium
    Webcam
    Wifi
    Bluetooth
    Designer messenger bag
    $799
    [​IMG]

    3GB memory
    160GB hard drive
    DVD burner
    Vista Home Premium
    Webcam
    Wifi
    17" Notebook
    $699
    [​IMG]




    Now in some areas, these machines are better than macbooks. For example, most have bigger screens, all have more memory and bigger hard drives. Some even have fingerprint readers. In some areas, they're not the same... For example, I'd take a Core2Duo over a Turion. However, They're all signifigantly cheaper than a Macbook. And considering the users that can get away with using a macbook, any of these machines would also suite their needs. And these arn't the best deals, either. These are just from a paper I had lying on my desk.

    I like Apple. I like OS X. But when it comes to value for the money, Apple just isn't even in the same ballpark.
     

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