Parts research v. transmission problem

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  1. Pioneer

    Pioneer Are you annoyed? You will be.

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    OK, I'll start with what I have ...

    1990 Dodge Dynasty - 3.0L ... start the car, start driving (in 1st gear), it shifts to 2nd, and I'm in 2nd until I shut the car off.

    Slight side note: I also have/had (all Chrysler) - 1990 Fifth Avenue 3.3L, 1993 New Yorker 3.3L, 1996 LHS 3.5L, 1998 Concorde LXi 3.2L
    There's a reason for mentioning these.


    Provided they have one, I can get a transmission for ~$50 at the local wrecking yard ... Here lies my dilemma.

    A604/41TE, A604/41AE, A606/42LE, A670, and OHH! 62TE

    OK, the A606/42LE is for Longitudinal (normal) engines - a modified 41TE ... hence the "L" (see LHS and Concorde)
    The 41AE is for AWD ... hence the "A"

    So, I'm looking at (for Dynasty) the A604/41TE and A670
    The 670 was a 3spd paired with the Mitsu 3.0L (6G72) from '87-'00 but the 6G72, in the Dynasty, is only listed for '88-'89 - I have a '90 so ...
    On to the A604/41TE ... listed in Dynasty from '89-'93 BUT, looking at it, it states that it was commonly paired with the 3.3L - I have the 3.0L
    It does mention that there are 4 bellhousings ...
    1) 2.5L
    2) 6G72
    3) 3.3L and 3.8L
    4) 2.0L and 2.4L
    but also mentions, due to problems, that the A670 may have been used with the 6G72


    Damn, I'm an idiot, I just thought ... all I need is an A670 or an A604/41TE from a 3.0L ...
    Well, really, the dilemma is - Where do I find an A604/41TE if pre-90 Dynastys were A670 and '90+ Dynastys may have been A670?



    Then there's this gem ... 62TE - it's a 6spd derivative of the 41TE used with the 3.5L, 3.8L, and 4.0L from '07+ on Sebring and Pacifica, '08+ on Avenger and minivans, and '09+ on Dodge Journey and VW Routan
    Could I manage a 6spd Dynasty with a bellhousing swap?
     
  2. Pioneer

    Pioneer Are you annoyed? You will be.

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    HA! My brain just clicked on something ... I HAVE, if it's a 4spd, the 3.0L bellhousing, I just need any A604/41TE.

    Of course ... this also opens up, if the bellhousings will swap, other possibilities:
    A604/41TE - if it's a 3.0L it bolts right in, any others is just a BH swap.
    40TES/41TES - ok, the 40 is for the 2.4L so I should probably avoid that, otherwise the only difference is the "S" indicating a shallower bellhousing ... maybe it'll still work but then we're also talking '07+ 2.7L
    and the aforementioned 62TE

    And, really, even if it is the A670, it's going to have the same BH, the difference being 3 or 4 speeds

    The only ones I can't use are the AE, LE, and RLE
     
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    Pioneer Are you annoyed? You will be.

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    LOL, OK, let me break it down for you since I, basically, answered my own question.

    1990 Dynasty with the 3.0L (Mitsubishi 6G72) engine and, should be, the A604/41TE (Transverse Electronic) transmission ... though possibly the A670 3-speed.

    Stick in "Limp-Home Mode" (AKA 2nd gear) - 1 and 2 are mechanical, 3 and 4 are electronic

    IF the wrecking yard has one, I can get it for ~$50 ... it shouldn't matter if it's an A670 or A604/41TE as the bellhousing should be the same (considering the donor car is equipped with the 3.0)
    If I should find an A604/41TE from an otherwise equipped car it should just be a matter of swapping the bellhousing. All I need is the list of cars equipped with the A604/41TE.

    the A606/42LE is not an option as it's for longitudinally (cylinders on left and right) positioned engines

    the 40TES/41TES may be possible as the difference between it and the A604/41TE is a shallower bellhousing.

    the 62TE may be a possibility as it's a variant of the A604/41TE (perhaps just a bellhousing swap would do and provide me with 6 speeds instead of 4)






    For clarification:
    The A604 and 41TE are different names for the same thing, likewise with the A606 and 42LE ... The 42LE is a variation of the 41TE, the difference being:
    The "L" designates longitudinal engines and the "T" transverse (sideways) - the "1" and "2" are torque ratings (bigger engine = more TQ) ... hmmm, 606 internals in a 604! Why?

    The 40TES and 41TES are the same except for the torque rating and only vary from the 41TE in the depth of the bellhousing.

    The 62TE is a 6-speed variant of the 41TE ... 2 more speeds and better torque rating ... bellhousing might even be the same though it's used on the 3.5, 3.8, and 4.0 from '07 and up.



    There's also 5, 7, and 8 for torque ratings but they're for RWD (and full-electronic) and I'm dealing with FWD (and prefer to avoid the full-electronic)
    Which reminds me, there's also a 41AE for AWD
     

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