SRS Parent and I are mentally ill. Will my children be?

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  1. MartyFukstein

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    I believe my mother is mentally ill. She's a happy person, but extremely obsessive compulsive.

    Her sons are both OCD with bouts of clinical depression. Her father had OCD, and was likely schizophrenic. My cousins are quite eccentric, if not mentally ill.

    My grandfather apparently possesed mental illness so genetically dominant that it still lives two generations later.

    Do you think my children will inherit my disorders? Does anyone here have a family with such dominant mental illness?
     
  2. johan

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    Before you have kids, call up your local hospital and ask if they have a genetic counselling department. There are specialists that cover this exact area -- diseases with a genetic component, inherited mental illnesses, etc.

    If you're not sure which hospital to approach, call your family doctor.

    If this question is serious, i.e. you are planning to have kids, you need to speak with a professional genetic counsellor (yes they really exist!) and have them look over your family history, do a short interview, etc.

    My opinion is...yes. When you say your grandfather was mentally ill, what did he have, and was he your maternal grandfather or paternal ? I'm assuming maternal, per your narrative.

    The rest of the illness seems to be on your mother's side, yes?
    Mother = OCD
    Mother's sons (i.e. YOUR brothers?) = OCD

    Cousins = eccentric. Maternal or paternal?

    Any history on your father's side? Are YOU ocd or something else?
     
  3. MartyFukstein

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    I never intended to have kids, but have a 2 year-old daughter and another on the way. Both are unintentional (I should have had a vacectomy, but my parents would disinherit me).

    So, I pretty much accept that it's likely my kids will have problems, but I'm very hopeful and optimistic that psych meds 16-20 years from now will allow them to live happy lives.

    BTW, good point about genetic counselors. Many, many people go ahead with pregnancies that shouldn't happen.
     
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    Oh I see. Well, you could still talk to a genetic counselor and map out a strategy for your kids.

    See, if you think they will be ocd right from the get go, they are in a far better position than most kids who don't get diagnosed, or properly diagnosed until they've been struggling for several years.

    So, you're ahead of the game, really, by being sensitive to this issue and proactive about it.
     
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    it's a coinflip.. my parents are real straightlaced and I'm bipolar so who knows... just give it time..

    most psych meds already control most issues... and do so with not many side effects as older ones.. so the situation there is improving.
     
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    The odds of your kids inheriting the genes that impart a high RISK of developing mental illnesses are much greater being that you undoubtedly have some. Depends on how bad the mother's genes are in this area, and how lucky you are in the "shuffling" of the genes.

    What this means is basically: you need to be PROACTIVE about abnormalities in your kids. Which is hard advice to follow because you wouldn't want to be a mental-health hypochondriac for them, but don't hesitate to take them to a pshrink if they behave very strangely?

    And yeah, a genetic counselor type would be a good idea.
     
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    Explosive Diahrea, huh?

    Let me tell you about explosive diahrea.

    I had Tuna on spaghetti here. Big mistake. That night i thought I was constipated. My stomach was gurgling something awful and i couldn't shit. Finally at 2am after some herbal tea, I HAD TO SHIT. I ran up the stairs in my underwear with my soap and towel, locked the door, took off my shorts, put back on my flip-flops, shuffled to the toilet, which is a hole in the ground round a bowl, and two foot pedals to either side.

    I took my normal "solid poop" stance, because I had been constipated. That means I leaned a bit forward and spread my ass cheeks with both hands. Tactical error. What came forth then was not a constipated log, but a porridge liqui-shit. It exploded out, fully 2/3 missing the bowl, hitting the tile behind it and splashing out in all directions. Shit splattered 3 feet up the wall, and 3 feet to either side. All over the floor, walls, and garbage can.

    I splashed off my ass and took to cleaning it up with a brush and a bucket of water. I threw up 12 times while doing so, a whole plate of rice biryani and lentils. At the end there was no liquid left, so I inhaled some biryani. Then I coughed and almost passed out, falling forward into my own shit.

    Then I showered. While showering, I had to shit again. Then I showered again and went downstairs to my room. I went back up those stairs a dozen times that night, but did not spread my cheeks, and so did not have such a mess to clean up.

    That is explosive diahrea. Thought you should know.
     
  8. tris

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    I think if someone else raised your children, they'd stand a better chance of being okay.

    While most mental illnesses, like schizophrenia, can be genetically documented, I would wager that disorders such as OCD and the like are purely environmental.

    Schizophrenia is a PHYSICAL brain abnormality --your hemispheres are literally too far apart. (Break it down Latin, kids, you'll know what I'm talking about.) While other disorders are semi-physical, in that you can document a hormonal-imbalance, or abnormal electrical activity, it starts to blur into the physiological side of the human body; our reactions to our environment. A simple example is someone repeatedly poking you, and your brain telling you that it's annoying.

    Stimulus -> Process -> Chemical -> Reaction.

    The gang's right, though.. Seek genetic counseling, and probably mental counseling. If you're already sure you're going to make one child miserable:

    . . . Then I'd say it might be time to make some hard decisions about your next baby. There are literally thousands of infertile couples who would give anything to have a child of their own.
     
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    EDIT: Please don't take my last post the wrong way. . . I'm glad you're at least worried about how your children will turn out. I'm not even trying to imply that you're a bad parent --in fact, asking for help makes you a GREAT parent! But, as with most problems we humans face, our answer always lies within ourselves.
    Look at it this way: We learn what we experience, especially with regard to child rearing. Think of all the mean, nasty things your parent(s) did to you, that you grew up to see as unnecessary, or futile, and sometimes downright wrong. Now which of those behaviors/actions have you emulated with your child? Which of those do you do on a regular basis? How do you think your child feels about this?
    Having a baby DOES change everything. (not just diapers, floors, and upholstery!) And the best change will always come from you.
     
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    jesus christ. dharamsala is not being kind to you is it...
     
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    toeshoes, what's with the one-word posts? You don't agree with me anymore? Let's hear it!
     
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    Well its an interesting topic. I have seen people who had mentally ill parents, but who where sane and normal themselves. And i have heard these people talk about their mentally ill parents, and what they thought about the decision of their folks despite being handicapped and mentally disorded to get children. They said , that they did live a very difficult childhood, because they couldn't understand why mommy or daddy wasn't really responsive. But that they did accept their parents, and did love them and supported their choise to take them into their lives. So yes it can be possible, however i would have a genetic test (before children are born) to see if no (deadly) or horrible combinations with complications come to light. Its no fun to see your child in every day pain.
     
  14. toeshoes

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    The question was "Parent and I are mentally ill. Will my children be?" and I answered it "yes". What more do you want? :mamoru:
     
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    obsessive compulsive disorder isn't really a mental disease; it is all in the mind!!

    oh, wait, that makes it a mental disease ...

    hmmm ... :o

    well, you can't share a mind with a child; they don't inherit your mind, it is molded by the environment ...

    hmmmm ... :mamoru:
     
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    OCD is often passed onto children, but that doesn't mean that they will have it really bad.
     
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    OCD has a very strong genetic component. It is an inheritable trait just like eye color, skin tone, height, etc.


     
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    then you getting divorced was genetic as well??

    hmmm ...

    lets just blame the genes, not the environment, eh?? :mamoru:

    same thing with fat people ... they are fat because of their environment!!

    eat healthy food and exercise you fat ass!! :mamoru:
     
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    Johan, since you've studied more clinical psych than I have, let me ask you: Have there been previous studies of children born of OCD parents and then not raised by said parents? Since OCD tends to be a focus on repetition and routine, (that's the differentiation, correct?) it seems to be something very learned in one's environment. Calling it genetic would almost put it in the same category as Muscular Dystrophy or Epilepsy. Genes grow in a pattern and routine, but they can't make the body move in a similar fashion; that's up to us.
     

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