Paging macro (nolva/clomid article)

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  1. RICK RO$$

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    http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/clomid-and-nolvadex-dangers.html

    Just skimmed over it and looks pretty interesting. I know the consensus is that nolva sucks but thoughts on the clomid downsides?

    I realize primordial sells some transdermal anti-E products which probably suck and its in their best interests to promote that, so I'm not sure how legit the article is just curious on your thoughts.
     
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  4. 4cd-Air

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    not something I'd like to read when I wake up
     
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    It's hard to answer that one without posting things most people won't understand but...

    Nolva is NOT a better choice. Since the purpose of PCT is to start up the HPTA and get an LH response, and research has shown Nolva to have no affect on LH, Clomid is the clear choice.

    Nolva lowers GH and IGF, Clomid does not. So Nolva can inhibit your gains, while Clomid has not been shown to do so.

    It's like there are 10 chapters in this part of medical science and he stopped at Chapter 4.
     
  8. 4cd-Air

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    So why is Nolva still the PCT of choice for so many "beginner cycles" such as test only? Due to the lack of side effects or something?
     
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    Says who, everyone I've ever talked to suggest clomid.

    I think clomid did get a bad wrap as far as sides, like being emotional b/c guys have in the past "front-loaded" a shit ton of it and then got said associated sides. But @ the 50mg/day for 2-4 weeks I haven't talked to many ppl that have said they got those sides.
     
  10. 4cd-Air

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    just seems like a lot of preconcieved "beginners cycles" I have seen on other boards and research sites pushed Nolva, maybe for price or accessability, they just do. I have no experience with either personally so I don't know.
     
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    I just like the discussion
     
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    I do. At 25mg/day I get occular tracers and want to cry while watching pampers commercials.

    Nolvadex is a better choice as an anti-estrogen when on.
     
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    I don't want to start a new thread so I'll post this here.

    I think my friend has taken some steroids in the past (~2 years ago). He says he hasn't but I'm pretty sure he's lying. I know he hasn't taken anything recently. In the past month he's developed gyno in his left tit. Army doctors are telling him to just wait and it will go away on its own. His brother (regular steroid user) advised him to get some nolvadex.

    Is that right? Should he take nolvadex to try to get rid of the gyno? He said it's very minor and not that visible but it's tender and painful. If not nolvadex what should he take?
     
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    MACRO PLEASE ANSWER
     
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    he needs femara and prami
     
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    It's cool to talk roids in here but AFboard has a lot more people that know what they are talking about and have acutally used.
     
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    no nolva is not a good choice as an anti-estrogen when on anything.
     
  18. JeremyD

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    I think you misread my post. I said nolva was better for people (esp gyno prone) on cycle, rather than post cycle. Otherwise, I'd say there are many better choices for AI's. But there are only a few drugs that will actually act to block estrogen at certain receptor sites, nolva being one of them.
     
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    I think nolva for pct just became accepted as conventional bro wisdom on forums.

    Which doesn't mean much because most people on anabolic forums just keep parroting the same shit. BRO IF YOU TAKE ORALS FOR LONGER THAN TWO DAYS YOU'LL ROT YOUR LIVER AND KIDNEYS AND DIE.
     
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    it happeneed to my friend's friend, bro
     
  21. RICK RO$$

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    Bro, before you start running your mouth to some "vets", post your stats and some pics. Lets see what you got, and it better not be just an upper body pic, lets see those "wheels" bro. I'll tell you what bro, last week when I was working my "wheels"(supersetting leg press w/leg extensions) I got such a huge "pump" that I couldn't even walk. I just curled up in fetal position on the floor of the gym. All the bitches in the gym saw me and got turned on and just started sucking my cock right there on the gym floor.

    After I blew my nut in one of the bitches mouth, the pump subsided and I knocked out 6 more sets each. Now thats fuckin hardcore bro, but moral of the story you gotta have the total package if you want to get all the bitches, and pay your dues on the "boards" before you start questioning bros that have been "vets" for a long time
     
  22. MaineSucks

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    [FONT=verdana, helvetica, arial][SIZE=-1]First off, bro, I think you need to read the board rules. NO ASKING FOR SOURCES. it's in the sticky by Brose Canseco. Also bro, you need to check our reps before you start runnin' your mouth to the bros. Last, I think you need to do more research before using AAS. What are your stats? Post a pic, cycle history. Use the search function, nooB! Mods, delete this post. Shit like this pisses me off! [/SIZE][/FONT]
     
  23. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    If i had to choose one it would be clomid.
     
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    thats great that it blocks at sites, if you were running a good AI like exemestane in the first place you wouldn't need it(were talking not progesterone compounds either way). Nolva is a waste of money IMO.
     
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