MIL Pacifists

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  1. Dylith

    Dylith OT Supporter

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    I was curious as to how people who have had military experiences view pacifists or simply the notion of pacifism.

    Is it a belief that you admire, but don't adhere to? Do you understand and respect it, or are you rather distainful of pacifism and those who follow it?

    I guess I could go even further and ask if anyone in here thinks that pacifists shouldn't be considered true US citizens due to the fact that they are not willing to physically fight for the survival of our country and its interests?

    I was just curious what people in the military think about this subject.

    Thanks for your input.
     
  2. TRN

    TRN Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the world would be such a great place then.



    :ugh:
     
  3. fintheman

    fintheman I will ebay O/T!

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    Why join the peace corp? I joined the Air Force
     
  4. mikdavi84

    mikdavi84 OT Supporter

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    I fight for peace. I also fuck for abstinence
     
  5. Ranger-AO

    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    Pacifists make it easier for people like Hitler and Khadafi and Bin Laden to prosper.
     
  6. R KriLLz

    R KriLLz Uncomfortable in my own skin.

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    when i was at arlington I read a quote on someone's grave that said something to the effect...

    "nobody hopes for peace more than a soldier."
     
  7. Mitsukillinsi

    Mitsukillinsi Active Member

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    i couldnt agree more
     
  8. PlutoBHG

    PlutoBHG New Member

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    ah this reminds me of a quote from a certain pink floyd song..see if you can guess it

    God only knows, its not what we would choose to do.

    its referring to war in general...
     
  9. kidhero

    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    Nobody prays more for peace than a soldier. But when peace fails us, we will do as we must to bring peace back to our country.
     
  10. Junkie

    Junkie re-tarded OT Supporter

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    I agree that we should fight to bring peace back to our country, but don't think that we should try to force things upon other countried through violence. In some cases fighting for peace can work, in other it is like fucking for virginity (although, what is the only way to make new virgins? fuck)
     
  11. R KriLLz

    R KriLLz Uncomfortable in my own skin.

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    we had to go to Iraq for peace. people maybe don't realize that because of the scope of the mission. this conflict with those crazy, beheading motherfuckers is gonna take a while.

    scares me to think that i live in a big city when they are all jerking off to the thought of me getting nuked. they need the fight brought to them.
     
  12. SoCaLlove

    SoCaLlove New Member

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    Kick ass. take names. comback home and have lib's call you a baby killer. I thought that's what you guys fight for, right? checks and balances... :hahano:
     
  13. Dylith

    Dylith OT Supporter

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    Roughly half of Iraq's population are children under the age of 18. As are thousands of its soldiers. But you are right, they are crazy people who need violence aimed at them. :(

    anyway let's not get offtopic.

    Pacifists love them or hate them?

    Personally I consider myself a pacifist. I'm not sure I could kill another human being, not even if my life depended on it. Then again I have never been placed in a situation where I have had to make that choice.

    I highly respect anyone who can go through life without supporting physical violence or succumbing to it.
     
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    PlutoBHG New Member

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    damn man, being a pacifist is ok to an extent, but if you have violence being brought upon you and you just take it...its called survival of the fittest
     
  15. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    I'm a pacifist, until I fire my weapon. In which case, I will try to take out as many as necessary to get home safely.
     
  16. R KriLLz

    R KriLLz Uncomfortable in my own skin.

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    well, i used the word beheading pretty deliberately, but i'll work with your logic anyway...

    yeah, ummm, who's targeting civilians to incite civil unrest?
    we're too busy helping them with infrastructure to make their lives hell.

    we are the bad guys because we make the enemy resort to such tactics? you look like you're scrambling to put the blame on us.
     
  17. Dylith

    Dylith OT Supporter

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    I wasn't trying to put blame on anyone, I was merely responding to this portion of your post:

     
  18. Dylith

    Dylith OT Supporter

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    Perhaps, but that is most likely only because a soldier is the one who is most likely to be involved in the fighting when there is fighting going on. Before war you see a lot of young guys eager to go off and fight the enemy and celebrate and brag when they get the chance to do so.


    Soldiers learn quickly the horrors of war.


    To get this thread back on topic a little bit I pose this question: Do you all think that pacifists should be eligable for the draft and forced to serve non-combat roles that none the less facilitate war?
     
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  19. smokie700

    smokie700 right near da beach, Boiiiii

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    Part of me wants to say yes but it would depend on the persons rational. Some pacifists may oppose the conflict so much that they purposly screw up which could cost the lives of the soldiers that rely on them for support.
     
  20. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    YES, Also, give them the choice to serve civil service.
     
  21. R KriLLz

    R KriLLz Uncomfortable in my own skin.

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    if they don't want to fight, then we can garnish their checks to help the war effort.
    being born here doesn't make you a citizen, making sacrifices when your country needs you does.
     
  22. PlutoBHG

    PlutoBHG New Member

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    why would anyone think pacifists should be immune to the draft just because they dont believe in fighting? kinda like claiming i should be immune to laws against drugs because i dont believe they are bad
     
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    I have a good friend that was in the USMC and served as an Embassy Guard in Jordan and Poland. After he got out he ended up signing up for the Peace Corps and spent a year or so living in a hand-made hut in the Philippines.

    He's a pacifist, but I feel he deserves to be more than most because he's lived on both sides of the fence.
     
  24. brownfield

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    I dunno, I like to think of myself as the only pacifist with a Combat Action Badge and an Assault and Battery charge... I'm a victim of circumstance.
     
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    that may be your opinion, but it's not the law.
     

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