A&P OTAP: learn me a little bit please v.natural light photography

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  1. Kamekaze v.OT

    Kamekaze v.OT New Member

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    After shooting a while on film and now digital, I've found that I dig shooting in natural/available light. I've also come to the realization that I'm not great at it. Here's an image from the other day:

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    I like it, but it just doesn't pop. What do I need (other than more experience, skill, and basic exposure knowledge) to avoid having to use fill flash? A reflector I'm guessing, but what color/size and all that jazz is best for shooting people? Thanks for any help guys.
     
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    Girth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ OT Supporter

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    her face is too dark. :hs:
     
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    she's back lit... you need fill light. Either use flash for fill, or set up a reflector.
     
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    First off, isn't the base ISO on Canon's 100? If not, then you shooting at 200 makes sense, I just thought they were at 100 compared to Nikon's base which is at 200.

    But the noise is standing out like crazy to me, but maybe it's just in the export and you toned it down.

    It's hard as hell to shoot directly into the sun and have a subject lit, no matter what technique you use. You need to have the sun blocked and even then, the sun/light will wrap around and the face will often be overexposed...your best bet is to chimp and manually expose so the face is exposed properly. The composition and everything else looks great (your daughter right?) and is a great candid.

    As far as reflector, most any will do...just bounce and redirect that light back onto your subject's face or whatever you want to emphasize and you'll have great light, simple as that.

    Hope this helps a bit. I suck myself, but what do we do...we keep shooting and getting better and better. I'm glad you're posting your stuff because it helps me get better as well. Cheers brutha.
     
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    Kamekaze v.OT New Member

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    I know :hs:


    I understand that much, my question was this:

     
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    :bigthumb::bigthumb::bigthumb:
     
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    Camera Maker: NIKON CORPORATION

    Camera Model: NIKON D700

    Lens: 14.0-24.0 mm f/2.8

    Image Date: 2009-06-13 17:29:09 -0500

    Focal Length: 14.0mm (35mm equivalent: 14mm)

    Aperture: f/5.6

    Exposure Time: 0.0050 s (1/200)

    ISO equiv: 400

    Exposure Bias: -0.33

    Metering Mode: Spot

    Exposure: Manual

    Exposure Mode: Manual

    White Balance: Auto

    Light Source: Unknown

    Flash Fired: No
     
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    Yup, definitely need to spot meter like I said in my suggestion. If you do Matrix it's taking in the overall exposure and what matters the most in a tricky shot like yours (shooting directly into the sun where the range is all over the place) is to make sure the face is exposed correctly. So in these instances program a button for it if you can do so (I have my Function button on my camera for this just as of a few days ago and it worked great today) and that'll ensure your camera focuses just on the face to help with the correct exposure.
     
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    Spot metering and focus on face. that would be a good photo.
     
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    exif data shows meter mode = spot
     
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    ibspotmeteredthesun
     
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    I used to use spot metering, but now I've learned how my camera's evaluative metering works and just adjust "exposure comp" to correct for tricky situations.

    As states shooting into the sun's gonna require flash or reflector. I'd just use a flash if I were you. Trying to capture that shot with a reflector would be luck at best. For those cute shots with children a flash is gonna be your friend.
     
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    I guess I didn't read your whole post. I would have used a gold reflector, it will reflect a warmer light.
     
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    u could also have her face the sun, of course when the sent is less harsh
     
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    With backlit subjects you can also do a little post if you don't have a reflector around...

    Here are a few adjustments with levels, curves, and dodge+burn:

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    I tried a little something my self

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    Kamekaze v.OT New Member

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    Anybody know why the hell I would get so much noise at iso 200?
     
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    Actually in this case you caused the noise when you boosted the levels on the girl. She was under exposed. You can only increase exposure in post so far until you start creating noise.
     
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    Noise comes from underexposed areas being pushed up. There are ways and NR software to deal with this. BabelJoat's edit is a nice example.
     
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    You're not creating noise in post. It was always there. You're just amplifying it.
     
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    I told you, you have a shitload of noise, even on your original where she's underexposed. Canon's base ISO is 100 isn't it?

    Look at Babel's edit, that's perfect and what you should be aiming for.
     
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    Kamekaze v.OT New Member

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    word, it was noisy as hell sooc, just because it was underexposed?
     

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