So, I've played WoW, EQ1 and 2, Vanguard and most importantly, UO. While I never got totally into EQ's, or Vanguard, WoW held my attention pretty well until about lvl 60. I don't care THAT much for PvE, and it's not why I play MMO's, I play for PvP. I like PvE'ing now and then as a source for items and money and such, but I really prefer player interaction. The things I loved about UO: -Everyone was capped and balanced fairly well -Crafting was awesome -the PvP set-up was probably the best I've ever seen in my opinion. I loved being able to log on whenever I wanted, run around alone or with friends and fight who or whatever I wanted when I wanted when I could find them. I don't mind penalties, and the ones in UO were perfect, lootable corpses and such. So, what's coming up that should hold my attention. For now it's all TF2 baby.