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  1. Mexican_Pirate

    Mexican_Pirate New Member

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    So yeah, my school is buying their first set of new computer hardware for computer class in 4 years, and it's going to be a few servers. Of course, since (a) they probably won't come with an OS and (b) there's going to be 8 servers anyways, I'm thinking about putting Debian Linux on one of them. Of course, for the Debian Linux install CDs, there are about 10 of them! Do I just pick one, or do I need all of them? Because if I need all of them, that would suck.
     
  2. Aimless

    Aimless Resident drunkey

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    It depends on what your limitations are: bandwidth or time/money.

    You can download a single "minimal CD" that will install Debian and download all of the components you need that are not found on that CD. You can download the CD image and burn it yourself for free.

    If you don't have broadband or have capped/metered bandwidth, you can buy a pair of DVDs or a dozen CDs for about 20 bucks.
     
  3. crontab

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    What do you plan to do with the server? What is it going to serve/do?

    The number of installation cd's should be the least of your concerns. That question is rediculous.
     
  4. Mexican_Pirate

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    I got the image for the minimal CD, but that was before I remembered that Linux can't access the school's network.
     
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    with the NetInst you used to be able to switch over to another "terminal" something like shift+F2 and configure Point to point OE etc, with pppoeconf, maybe there is something similar for the school network setup, depending on what authentication you are using
     
  6. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    :werd: If you don't know what CD to download, you probably shouldn't be installing Debian on a server.

    Not that n00bs shouldn't use Linux, in fact I fully support everyone using Linux - it's no harder to use than Windows is. However, setting up a server goes far beyond just "using Linux" on the desktop.
     
  7. Mexican_Pirate

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    All I'm asking is just which of Binary CDs 1-12 are necessary or required for running a server?
     
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    Aimless Resident drunkey

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    Even if you gave us a list of every single binary you plan on using (which I can guarantee would be inadequate), no one on here is going to know (or care to look up) which CDs they're on.

    You seem way to fixed on running "a server" and less knowledgeable on what you plan to do with it or how you're going to secure it.

    Another question: If the linux boxes can't see the school's network, what are you going to serve?
     
  9. CyberBullets

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    If it's gonna be on the web (in a DMZ or straight connection) go with FreeBSD.

    BSD is all about security and stability.
     
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    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    OpenBSD > FreeBSD for the security. Although, it does actively try to attack you while you're installing it.
     
  11. Mexican_Pirate

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    We're getting Compaq Proliant 1600 servers from 1999 that are being thrown out by someone who doesn't want them. The best we can hope for is a small intranet setup.
     
  12. Mexican_Pirate

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    In what way?
     
  13. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    In what way is it better for security? It's been completely designed from the ground up with security in mind. The lengths they have gone through to prevent simple things like buffer overflows are absolutely incredible. It's quite possible the most securely written kernel around.

    In what way does it try to attack you? With knives. And guns. And cannons sometimes. It doesn't like to be installed.
     
  14. Mexican_Pirate

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    Oh, okay. I'll stick with my Debian. Now if only I could steal my dad's network cable to download the desktop since it doesn't see my wireless card...
     
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    So, they are essentially servers, with nothing to serve? :hsugh:
     
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    col_panic calm like a bomb Moderator

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    :rofl:
     
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    col_panic calm like a bomb Moderator

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    yeah, theo is the man - bitch though he is
     
  18. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Yep. I also feel rather secure logging in at school where Bob Beck (a major OpenBSD kernel developer) is in charge of the network security and where several other kernel contributors work in my department.
     

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