Opinions on subs

Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by trez157, Oct 14, 2003.

  1. trez157

    trez157 You can't trust freedom when it's not in your hand

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    What are the audio peoples opinions on the Crossfire brand of subs. Some classmate of mine said she can get me some for cheap. I currently have JL's, but thee would be for my second car.
     
  2. 04

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    Which subs in particular are you talking about?
     
  3. trez157

    trez157 You can't trust freedom when it's not in your hand

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    the cf312d's were the one's I was looking at
     
  4. trez157

    trez157 You can't trust freedom when it's not in your hand

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    anyone?
     
  5. 04

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    Well I havent ever heard those.

    Try going to www.carsound.com and the forums on that site, they are knowledgeable, and Im sure someone there has heard them before.
     
  6. trez157

    trez157 You can't trust freedom when it's not in your hand

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    thanks
     
  7. CHiEFTAiN

    CHiEFTAiN New Member

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    I prefer Rockford Fosgate, JL, MTX, and Kicker subs.
     
  8. midnite

    midnite OT Supporter

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    :ugh:
     
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    eclipse, crystal, RE, Orion
     
  10. curtis_rak

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    If you want bang for the buck...JL

    I had 2 JL12W0's (DVC) in my last car powered by a Rockford Punch 150a and I hit 138db. Not too shabby for about $600 CDN brand new.

    Right now I have a single 10" Phoenix Gold QX10 (as I have grown out of the huge booming sound) it sounds just 'nice' perfect bass fill. Powered by a US Acoustics 600-D amp.

    It also comes down to what you want for sound. If you want tight punchy bass or boomy, loud bass. 10's work nice for tight...and 12's work good for loud.
     
  11. 04

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    That is a unsubstantiated myth.

    You could get a 18" woofer to sound as tight and clean as a 8' woofer if the woofer is of good quality and put in an appropriate enclosure.

    On the other side, you can get a 10" woofer to sound much louder than a 12" woofer, depending on the woofers in comparision and the box used.
     
  12. twistid

    twistid Banged By Super Models Moderator

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    what's wrong with those brands in your oppinion??? also notice he used the key words "i prefer".
     
  13. curtis_rak

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    You are right, however, for the average person who's tuning knowledge is also average, it would be substantiated.
     
  14. midnite

    midnite OT Supporter

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    nothing :o i dont know why i posted that :o
     
  15. flynfrog

    flynfrog Cool isnt Cheap

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    how hard is it to tune look at data sheet build box to spec
     
  16. 04

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    :ugh:

    And why might that be? Are you implying that the size of the woofer will determine the amount of knowledge needed to tune an enclosure for it? Heres a helpfull hint, for a given box size, the tuning frequency determined by the dimensions of the port will be the same NO MATTER WHAT woofer is used in it ;)
     
  17. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    I don't know if i understand what you are saying here. Do you mean that the theile-small parameters have nothing to do when creating a box? maybe i am just misunderstanding.
     
  18. 04

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    Absolutely not.

    I am however saying that a helmholtz resonator (a port) in a box will resonate at the same frequency no matter what woofer you put in the box.
     
  19. boostin-gp

    boostin-gp Guest

    Not disagreeing... just trying to learn, but...

    Doesnt each woofer work differently or react differently to a given port size?
     
  20. 04

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    Yes it does. However, the tuning frequency is STILL THE SAME. If you have any computer enclosure simulation software, put two woofers with very different theile small paremters in identically sized boxes tuned to the exact same frequency. You will see that the port volume is identical.
     

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