GUN Opinion

Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Staats, Apr 26, 2005.

  1. Staats

    Staats New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2004
    Messages:
    8,829
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The City of Salt
  2. oakie

    oakie my ninja.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2001
    Messages:
    26,172
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    SoDo
    XD is just not my thing.

    1. i'm not a polymer fan, even though i own a Glock. i just prefer a metal frame for better overall balance.
    2. the grip safety is as useless as a trigger safety lever, IMO. this one has both.
    3. i'm an "aesthetics" kinda guy, but ergonomics are still #1 in my book... thus most polymer guns are unappealing to me.

    but to counter my own opinion, they are a damn rugged gun, feed almost anything, and are combat accurate. they are also very reasonably priced.

    i would never consider one simply because all of my current guns function perfectly. it doesnt do any more than what my current set already does.


    i'm sure vermincelli will chime in... he's an avid XD owner/fan here.
     
  3. Ant

    Ant Serious Business.

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Tampa
    I have a xd subcompact in 9mm. I love the little bastard. its accurate, reliable, and shoots +p with no problems.
     
  4. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    56,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Texas Bound!
    I love my XD-40 reliable and accurate no complaints
     
  5. Vermincelli

    Vermincelli Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    57,873
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    GET OFF MY LAWN!
    I carry an SC almost daily now and love it(my 1911 and CZ40 still get some carry time so they don't feel left out). I used to look down on the polymer guns but have changed my ways :)
    With a Pearce grip extension, i find the little XD to be almost as accurate as my 4" service.

    Ups: tough reliable and accurate. Easy to takedown and clean. easy to conceal. warranty for the life of the gun. can be found for around $450 or less. Eats everything you can feed it including +P+ and handloads. good ergonomics. Steel SIG sights. drop free magazines. Has rails to fit the XML light. Accepts the full size mags if you want to use them for range shooting.

    Downs: the black slide is parkerized so will rust if you don't maintain it.

    Up: if you do get rust most of the time it's crap on the surface and wipes off with a rag, if slide itself does get rust though, Springfield will coat it with GunKote under warranty.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2005
  6. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    56,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Texas Bound!

    Wont any parkerized gun rust without maintenance?
     
  7. Vermincelli

    Vermincelli Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    57,873
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    GET OFF MY LAWN!

    Why yes, yes they will.
     
  8. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    56,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Texas Bound!
    OK
     
  9. 7

    7 First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    25,055
    Likes Received:
    0
    Think they'll ever do it straight from the factory instead of having people have to send them back if they want it?
     
  10. Vermincelli

    Vermincelli Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    57,873
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    GET OFF MY LAWN!
    Only if Springfield opens a factory here in the U.S. and takes over manufacturing instead of just importing them from Croatia. If sales keep going like they are though, it may become an option for them to consider.

    The Croatian factories are having a hard time keeping up with demand since their primary production is for European Military/Law Enforcement. Problem is, since the people getting those models are taught to maintain them, they are not seeing rusting issues. It's over here where people are used to things like Tennifer and GunKote and haven't had to deal with the other finishes that have rusting issues. (I grew up with the old finishes so it's second nature with how I maintain mine)
     
  11. oakie

    oakie my ninja.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2001
    Messages:
    26,172
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    SoDo
    it seems Glock has been doing quite a bit of damage to true gun culture. :hs:
     
  12. Vermincelli

    Vermincelli Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    57,873
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    GET OFF MY LAWN!
    Damn them :)
     
  13. int3rnal

    int3rnal Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,215
    Likes Received:
    0
    I just picked up the 9mm Sub-Compact tonight @ Gander MTN for $400. Im can't wait to shoot this bad boy tomorrow. This gun shit is really addicting, anyway it compliments my compact nicely, maybe i'll finish the trio up with the tactical soon.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Vermincelli

    Vermincelli Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    57,873
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    GET OFF MY LAWN!
    Those are some good pics. like the contrast :)
    You have a hi res of the first one? would make a nice background
     
  15. int3rnal

    int3rnal Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,215
    Likes Received:
    0
    here ya go

    http://uploads.ztsigs.org/files/xdhi.jpg
     
  16. Vermincelli

    Vermincelli Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    57,873
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    GET OFF MY LAWN!
  17. htex1004

    htex1004 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2003
    Messages:
    220
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    While we're on CCW size guns... Anyone opinoins on the SIG made gun that looks sort of like a larger PPK They had one here in 380 with night sights. Does it alse come in 9mm.

    Also alot of people responded on the keltec's but any opinoins on kahr 9mm's?
     
  18. oakie

    oakie my ninja.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2001
    Messages:
    26,172
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    SoDo

    the Sig you allude to is the P230/232. it is in .380acp only. it's a straight recoil blowback design, so no higher power calibers can be used with it without significantly beefing up the slide and recoil spring. it's a great gun, and if you feel comfortable with the 380acp caliber, it's an excellent package. my only gripe about it is the european mag release... makes mag swapping an absolute bitch under stress.

    i kinda like the Kahrs but would never carry one for two reasons... the all steel models are unreasonably heavy for obvious reasons. the polymer ones are ideal, but the mag sticks in the grip... and if you have low ammo capacity, a mag change becomes a probability.


    my main concerns with a carry gun are as follows, in order:
    reliability
    accuracy
    drop free mags or sufficient single mag ammo count
    weight/bulk
    snag-free profile
    chambered in a caliber that inspires confidence
     

Share This Page