Opinion on 4 week mass phase followed by 2 week diet phase?

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  1. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    Rinse and repeat. Anyone do this and how has your progress been doing it?
     
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    ACLdestroyer OT Supporter

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    Depends on your goals but it sounds like a feasible idea to me.
     
  3. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    I like the sound of something like this. Is the purpose of this to maintain fat or to lose fat?
     
  4. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    Hopefully lose fat. I finished the 4 week mass phase Friday and just started the diet phase by cutting cals ~300 cals a day and adding an additional 20 minutes to my cardio 4 days a week.
     
  5. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Sounds pretty dumb to me.
     
  6. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    Why?
     
  7. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Well what the hell are you going to accomplish with 4 weeks of "bulking" and a whopping 2 weeks of diet?
     
  8. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    A few pounds of gains during the mass gaining phase and loss of fat during the diet? I'm not saying this is the greatest idea ever and that's why I'm asking for opinions.
     
  9. kit99bar

    kit99bar USPA Class 2, weak, old man!

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    I think Timber said he does somethign similiar to this
     
  10. The Boy Bastard

    The Boy Bastard Bewbie's??

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    Why not just do a clean bulk?
     
  11. Phineas Q Stork

    Phineas Q Stork Active Member

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    you sure do ask a lot o questions
     
  12. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    All the foods in my diet stay the same during both bulking and cutting. Cutting just involves a little less calories and more cardio.
     
  13. Genghis.Tron

    Genghis.Tron New Member

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    Well, staying leaner helps nutrient partitionning and insulin/leptin resistance comes fast when overeating which would alter the mass gains too.
     
  14. The Boy Bastard

    The Boy Bastard Bewbie's??

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    Another 500 to 800 calories over maintenance isn't going to be that big of a deal if he puts in the work in the gym and varies his calories from time to time. It will way more beneficial than 4 weeks bulking and 2 cutting. This is more of another case of overanalyzing as mentioned in another thread last week...just do the damn thing.
     
  15. Mass

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    this would only really work with some kind of anabolic use, if you are natty, sounds like you'll just end up in the same spot over and over or just end up slowly getting fat.
     
  16. turbo35

    turbo35 haters gonna hate

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    What kind of gains would you look for before a cut?

    I started at 140, probably about 12%bf (5'9"). Skinnyfat, basically. I'm up to about 155 or so now over the past 3 months, feel like I've gone to maybe 15% bodyfat... so maybe 9 lbs muscle, 6 lb fat gain? My best guess, anyhow... from what the mirror tells me.

    I was figuring for somewhere around 165-170 by the end of the year with a bf around what I'm at now, then cut off like 10 lbs or so at the beginning of the year (so I can do lots of HIIT around the neighborhood and avoid the new years rush at the gym for jan-feb :mamoru:)... see where that puts me, and start the cycle again.

    Sound about right? :dunno:

    (natty btw, whey, creatine, and lots of food)
     
  17. Mass

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    if most of your gains are in your gut, thats a bad sign
     
  18. turbo35

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    My guts gotten a bit softer, hence the increase in bf%. My arms/legs are definitely larger/more solid, so it's not all fat... probably somewhere around the ratio I'm guessing at.

    What do you think a good bulk gain is, in terms of lbs or %bw gain?
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    Fuck. So the general consensus is that this is a bad idea.
     
  20. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    How many pounds a week do you generally shoot for during a bulk? I'm thinking 1/2 - 1 lb a week is low enough to keep fat gains to a minimum.
     
  21. turbo35

    turbo35 haters gonna hate

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    I'm pushing closer to 2, with the mindset that I don't really give a shit about an extra lb or two of fat, I'd rather make sure I'm feeding my body at least enough to make use of the gym time... I can always knock a couple lbs off later.
     
  22. TXLBS

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    You aren't going to get shit done in 4 weeks bulking, or 2 weeks cutting. Stick to shit for longer if you want to get anywhere.
     
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