ON's 2:1:1 Recovery shake.....anyone tried it?

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  1. Patrick Bateman

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    debating picking it up, im tired of having whey, then WMS, two shakes pre workout and two shakes post. this seems like a pretty good blend. anyone try it? how are the flavors? they got raspberry, mango, chocolate and vanilla :dunno:


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    The Rapid Recovery Ratios
    2:1:1 Carbohydrate Ratio
    2 x Glucose Polymers + Waxy Maize Starch
    1 x Sucrose
    1 x Fructose

    2:1:1 Protein Ratio
    2 x Hydrolyzed Whey Protein Isolate (Fast)
    1 x Micellar Casein (Slow)
    1 x Egg Albumen (Intermediate)

    2:1:1 BCAA Ratio
    2 x Leucine
    1 x Isoleucine
    1 x Valine
     
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    choco is the only thing i like from on
    that and choco mint
     
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    This kid I know is tryin to argue with me that this shake is bullshit to the max, the ratios are off, that you need WAY more protein than 35 grams (even though i have my steak 45 mins PWO so its quite enough for me), and that you need to seperate WMS from the protein. He's arguing to the death. :rofl: He's bothering me.
     
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    how much is it? I usually slam a Worldwide Nutrition Rapid Recovery drink at the gymski... kinda expensive but they're easy
     
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    32.99 for 3.73 lbs.
     
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    then you have your protein 15 minutes later via shake? then a foodstuffs meal how much longer after that?
     
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    There is a big argument on when to take your protein and waxy m...some think you shouldnt take them together and some say the WM makes the protein work twice as fast....
     
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    You do need to seperate your WM shake and your protein. No point in using the WM is you taking in protein at the same time.

    WM shake
    15-20 min
    Protein shake.
     
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    I've read several articles by Justin Harris that say Wm then Pro 15-20 min later. This is all the general concencious on AF.

    then meal 45-1hr later.
     
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    Correct, JH is where I learned also
     
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    the R.R. drink is 34g of whey and 33g of carbs + some other recovery stuff. food will be like 30-45min later
     
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    hmm so my friend is right, now my next question is WHY the hell would ON put this product out then, i'd assume they did some research before hand, wtf.
     
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    so pre workout. lets say you guys are trainng at 2:00pm.

    you would do:

    1:30 protein 1:45 WMS

    then post work out if you got done at 3:00

    3:15 WMS 3:30 protein?
     
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    instead of 4 shakes of WM+PP I would do three. 1 prior/during/post. That's what Justin Harris recommends for size. also as long as you don't put in too much protein or if you use enough WM it won't slow the absorption. The effectiveness of WMS is in it osmality (high molecular weight) which allows rapid absorption...if you add too much other stuff you lower the molecular weight and slow the absorption...
     
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    so you beleive in taking them together?

    damn. all sorts of confusing.
     
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    Ive been doing this if Im working out at 7pm

    Whey 5:30
    BA, Waxy, Creatine 6:30
    WM during workout
    Whey pwo
     
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    damn dude, 5:30 is when i'd have a full meal, i'd be HUNGRY as shit with just protein at 5:30 before a 7 workout.
     
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    Pretty much.

    This is what I do every day(I workout at 4pm)

    3:00 Pro shake(one scoop whey/water)

    3:45-> through workout, Shake w/ 40g of WM.

    then Post workout

    60g of WM
    wait 15-20 min
    and Pro shake w/ 2 scoops whey.
     
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    then how much longer after do you eat?
     
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    IIRC, the amount of whey it takes to slow down the absorbtion rate is not very much. Less than is in one scoop for most.
     
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    45 min to 1 hour
     
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    :wavey: wtf is WM that they are referring to :o
     
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    Well any amount will slow down the absorption that is true but as long as you don't put in too much, it doesn't slow it so much that it matters. A scoop or two is fine. Its more to be worried about when you add, PP, a banana, milk, then you are losing the benefit of getting it absorbed quickly. Whey is a fast digesting protein anyway.
     
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    Eh, not what Justin's article says or anyone on AF says.

    I'll keep doing it the way I have been. Has worked awesome.
     
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