Once you do a cycle, is it possible to make natural gains afterwards?

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  1. PaddoK

    PaddoK Some dolphins get massacred, some dolphins get blo

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    Disclaimer: I am not planning on doing a cycle, I've got a ways left to go on good old genetics. Just curious.

    But once you do a cycle of AAS, can you ever go back to making decent natural gains? Or are you stuck in a steroid spiral, where you need them to make gains?
     
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    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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  3. Mass

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    yes
     
  4. PaddoK

    PaddoK Some dolphins get massacred, some dolphins get blo

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    So theoretically, with proper PCT, the body ought to be producing the same level of testosterone etc., after the cycle as before?
     
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    well, without the super high lvls of test in your body, you'll never be able to carry that amount of muscle on natural test levels. Being anabolic free for almost 4 years now, Id have to guess I still put on 7-9lbs of lbm every year just judging from older pictures of me and how old clothes fit when I try em on again.
     
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    Of course. If you have a good pct cycle, I'm sure you can begin gaining again soon afterwards (once normal test levels return).
     
  9. xSteveO

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    I think so, even after only 6-7 months of being clean I've had some gains of about 9-10 lbs on the scale
     
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    The cycle might bring you closer to your genetic potential as far as how much muscle you can naturally support, but there shouldn't be much (or any?) irreversible desensitization.
     
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    bear frankly rover i dont give a "woof

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    What's the point of PCT? Is it just keep your liver from exploding?
     
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    PCT starts your body naturally producing testosterone again (which it usually starts doing during cycle), prevent gyno once your estrogen levels rise, keep cortisol levels down, blah blah blah. PCT does lots of shit
     
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    I personally don't know what m-drol and e-form are but I'm assuming m-drol is a methylated steroid and e-form is some sort of estrogen blocker. I wouldn't run a steroid (m-drol) without proper PCT, and most likely e-form isn't enough.
     
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    m-drol is similar (if not equal) to superdrol. E form is a spray estrogen blocker. What PCT is cheap and effective?
     
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    2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol 10mg

    I don't know how to seach to find out what that exactly is
     
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    jesus fucking christ. m-drol is a superdrol clone

    no, milk thistle is not enough
    no, e-form is not enough

    www.anabolicminds.com

    you need a lot of shit.


    search for superdrol

    do research there
     
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    You kinda need to know what you are taking,to design a post cycle therapy
     
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    nolva 40/30/20/10
    rebound reloaded 25/50/50/75
    reduce xt 75/50/50/25
    cycle support, 2 scoops a day starting a week before cycle and ending after pct
     
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    I am not a chemist. I have seen the makeup of the two and one number was changed, so I came to the understanding it was a generic. I have read a good deal about superdrol and what is necessary but wasn't sure if the same applied to this.

    I figured I needed more stuff that is why I have asked. I won't start taking it until I have everything in order.
     
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    THANK YOU!
     
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    Cool,tell how your gains are.I did read a study that milk thitsle was bunk compared to placebo.
     
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    Can you? Of course. Is it NEARLY as fun? No.

    For a lot of people, it is a big mental fuck to be "off".
     
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    that's a lot of money in supplements. looks like i won't be starting for a while. :hs:. Isn't nolva a prescription drug?
     
  25. Mippity

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    My liver my liver :beavis:
     
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