GUN OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle, SS Investigates

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle
    By McClatchy-Tribune Information Services
    Published: February 19, 2009
    http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-p...article/3347038?custom_click=headlines_widget
    An Oklahoma City police officer wrongly pulled over a man last week and confiscated an anti-President Barack Obama sign the man had on his vehicle.

    The officer misinterpreted the sign as threatening, said Capt. Steve McCool, of the Oklahoma City Police Department, and took the sign, which read "Abort Obama, not the unborn."

    Chip Harrison said he was driving to work when a police car followed him for several miles and then signaled for him to pull over.

    ''I pulled over, knowing I hadn't done anything wrong," Harrison said in a recent phone interview.

    When the officer asked Harrison if he knew why he had been pulled over, Harrison said he did not.

    ''They said, 'It's because of the sign in your window,'" Harrison said.

    ''It's not meant to be a threat, it's a statement about abortion," Harrison said.

    He said he disagrees with the president's position on abortion.

    ''I asked the officer, 'Do you know what abort means?'" Harrison said. "He said, 'Yeah, it means to kill.' I said, 'No, it means to remove or terminate.'"

    Harrison said his sign was to be interpreted as saying something like: Remove Obama from office, not unborn babies from the womb.

    The officers confiscated Harrison's sign and gave him a slip of paper that stated he was part of an investigation.

    Harrison said he later received a call from a person who said he was a lieutenant supervisor for the Internal Investigations Department and wanted to know his location and return his sign to him.

    According to Harrison, the supervisor said the Secret Service had been contacted on the matter and had told them the sign was not a threat to the president.

    Harrison was asked if he would like to file a complaint. He said he was not sure but would take the paperwork, just in case.

    But his run-in with the law wasn't over yet.

    ''The Secret Service called and said they were at my house," Harrison said.

    After talking to his attorney, Harrison went home where he met the Secret Service.

    ''When I was on my way there, the Secret Service called me and said they weren't going to ransack my house or anything ... they just wanted to (walk through the house) and make sure I wasn't a part of any hate groups."

    Harrison said he invited the Secret Service agents into the house and they were "very cordial."

    ''We walked through the house and my wife and 2-year-old were in the house," Harrison said.

    He said they interviewed him for about 30 minutes and then left, not finding any evidence Harrison was a threat to the president.

    ''I'm still in contact with a lawyer right now," Harrison said. "I don't know what I'm going to do."

    Harrison said he feels his First Amendment rights were violated.

    McCool said the officer who pulled over Harrison misinterpreted the sign.

    ''We had an officer that his interpretation of the sign was different than what was meant," McCool said. "You've got an officer who had a different thought on what the word 'abort' meant."

    McCool said the sign basically meant Obama should be impeached and it was not a threat.

    ''(The officer) shouldn't have taken the sign," McCool said. "That was (Harrison's) First Amendment right to voice his concern."

    McCool said although the sign should not have been confiscated, the situation was made right in the end.

    ''We always try to do the right thing and in the end we believe we did the right thing by returning the sign," McCool said.

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    This one of the reasons I keep my vehicles sticker free, especially political stickers, just an invitation for vandalism or extra tickets for a cop who disagrees and is having a bad day. Would of told the SS to fuck off too they aint coming in with out a warrant.
     
  2. Rip The Jacker

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    and if he had any guns he'd be in prison already.
     
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    Jesus Christ.
     
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    At fort courage armory (local gun store) they have obama's picture up as the employee of the month. I thought it was funny.
     
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    You can either practice the 1st or the 2nd amendment, not both. That shit will land you in jail.
     
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    Reasonable cause for a stop, shouldn't have taken the sign.
     
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    reasonable cause? since the cop didn't know what abort meant?
    so, ignorance of the law is in fact an excuse for police, but not for civilians?
     
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    how was it reasonable :hsugh:
     
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    Not resonable at all imo.
     
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    ive heard of RS and PC but not RC. :o
     
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    He should file an armed robbery charge against the cop for stealing his sign. :o
     
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    i believe you mean ignorance of the English language :mamoru:
     
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    perhaps just ignorance in general >_>
     
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    It's justifiable to stop and speak with someone who may have a "KILL THE PRESIDENT" sticker on his car.
    Not PC for a search, but reasonable to stop and have a conversation with the guy.
     
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    Right or wrong morally, the stop will stand in court.
     
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    Yea were not going to become a police state :ugh:
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    How many pretty much kill bush bumb stickers have there been
     
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    i haven't seen any. most call for impeachment, which is exactly what this sticker called for, only it used a play on words in order to appeal to humor
     
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    "Why yes, Secret Service men you may enter." :ugh2:

    No way would I let them in my home without a warrant. If they saw some book, gun, or website on the computer screen they didn't like you would be in jail.
     
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    MF'n DOT
     
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    Ask him if you can take it and put it on your police cruiser? :mamoru::mamoru:

    He probably woulda said 'yes'.
     
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    IblancerVwoulddrawonofficerfortakinghissticker
     
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    officer was either exceptionally dense, or pro-life and wanted to make trouble for this guy.

    To claim the 'abort obama not the unborn' sign was a literal threat... reading comprehension much? :ugh:
     

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