MIL Ok, I've got a big decision now - Help me see the ups and downs

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  1. jcgodfrey

    jcgodfrey New Member

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    Here's my 'dilemma' if you will...

    After hating the business world and searching for something else, I've come to the decision that I have two options; police department (in the city...not a ticket writer) or the military.

    They both have their advantages. The police? 5 days on, 3 days off, or 4 days on, 4 days off (I know that makes no sense, but it IS typed correctly). Pay is about $39k per year starting first year out of probation. After your first full year there are also ample opportunities for overtime pay. I get to stay at home with family/friends and keep my dog!

    Military? I believe it would develop more leadership skills, I'd probably learn more, the college benefits (I already have a degree) are nice too. My ASVAB score is such that I can do any enlisted job. The only branch where I can go in as an officer is the Army.

    I'm thinking about doing SEALS, Air Force PJ or combat control...are there any jobs that are similar that might be cool? I think the military attracts me because of the challenge it presents.

    The travel opportunities are also great.

    I'm also looking at eventually getting into federal law enforcement (FBI, NCIS). The military gets 'points' in federal jobs, and they get preference, right?

    So...tell me...what do you like and dislike about the military? Am I missing anything? I've been all over the internet trying to read and learn, and get an idea of what I'm getting into. I really like the idea of serving in the military and most everything about it. At the same time, my ride along with the police was awesome too!

    Has anyone done both? Any advice?

    Sorry for the long post! This is a big decision for me...
     
  2. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Come in as an officer in the Army.

    Military life is much like civilian life except you are bound by more rules and regulations, held to a higher standard, and your end goal is to kill people and break their stuff.
     
  3. jcgodfrey

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    jyokker - I like that...kill people and blow up their stuff :) It makes me chuckle although it is true :)

    What kind of jobs in the Army would compare to the ones I listed above?
     
  4. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    I don't know, I'm AF.
     
  5. bassjunky

    bassjunky I'm baaaaa-ack!

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    I miss that part of the real army. TRADOC FTMFL.
     
  6. jcgodfrey

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    Jyokker - what do you do in the AF?
     
  7. evan2

    evan2 Guest

    if you have a degree then go in as an officer
    is it a 2 year degree you have or 4? why cannot you can join another branch as one
    if its just a 2 year then you just cant get past capt until you make it a 4 year degree

    you want to do pj, seals type shit then the Army is a far better choice for that shit
     
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    hes a comm weenie
     
  9. jcgodfrey

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    evan2 - All of the other branch recruiters have told me that my degree does them no good (it's a 4 year dual major, management and marketing). Plus my GPA is 'great'...I spent too much time in the gym vs. in the library :)

    But yes, it is a 4 year degree. And the other recruiters have told me no way about being an officer. They said I'd have to earn it once I got in.
     
  10. evan2

    evan2 Guest

    im shocked the navy or marines wouldnt take you but the army would
    take to diff recruiters just to make sure, check regs
    4 year degree is a degree
    if its in mgmt then shit
    thats what an officer is for the most part, im shocking hte af wouldnt take you
    though we are trying to get rid of many officers now
     
  11. Zombie Pornstar

    Zombie Pornstar I'm cumming RAWL

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    There are so many options available. You can be special forces(not reccomended for someone with kids), you can be a mechanic on vehicles or helicopters, you can be in the infantry, you can be a scout...the list is endless.

    Check out www.goarmy.com for a full list of the MOSs.
    www.military.com also has a short questionairre you can fill out to see which jobs would suit you.
     
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    Special Forces..... You could come in as an infantry officer for a bit, then go get your green beret. :cool:
     
  13. jcgodfrey

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    evan2 - I dunno why but they sounded like me being an officer wasn't even a consideration? I scored a 96 on my ASVAB (dunno if that has any bearing), I've never done drugs, I have a great record...I'm in shape...ahhh who the hell knows?

    If I go into another branch I guess I'll just have to earn that once I'm in.
     
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    You spoke with an enlisted recruiter. They need to make quotas for enlisting. Speak with an officer recruiter and you will get a completely different story. I know Marine officers that had pretty low GPAs (but good recs, SATs, PFT scores). I'd bet the Air Force is the only branch that will categorically deny you right now because you don't have a technical degree.

    From your comments about SEALS, PJs, etc, I think the enlisted route would probably be the better way for you to go, since most of the time those types of units have very few officers.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
     
  15. RaginBajin

    RaginBajin Have you punched a donkey today?

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    If you are interested in the army, you should head over to http://www.armyocs.com They can answer all your questions about the Army atleast, but they also have links to all the other branches as well. I know atleast your GT score from your ASVAB has to be atleast 110. There is no waiver for that. So, you might want to check that and study a bit to get that score up.
     
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    rajinbajin - my GT score was 132. My cumulative score was a 96, which is on a 99 point scale. All of my ASVAB scores were MORE than high enough for anything in any branch. I didn't have any 'weak' scores that would disqualify me from anything :) The Navy recruiter saw my scores then went and grabbed stuff about Nuclear programs...not my cup of tea :)

    The super lurker - Where can I find an OFFICER recruiter in my area? I looked online at all of the military sites and can't find a search for an officer recruiter etc.

    That would help with my decision.
     
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    thesuperlurker - thanks for those links man, you rock. I have done searches and haven't been able to find much about the officer recruiters!
     
  19. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Never talk to an enlisted recruiter about becoming an officer - any branch.
    I am a comm weenie.
     
  20. jcgodfrey

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    Ok thanks for those tips. I have already gone and requested 'more info' so I can talk to an officer recruiter.

    I appreciate it everyone. Thanks a lot!
     
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    What is your current job in the civilian world? Officer pay is nearly triple that (if not close) of an enlisted soldier. Recommend officer above all else. OCS isn't that incredibly difficult...besides you've probably already developed a lot of the basic skills to make the transition.
     
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    For any other questions besides the actually process - i.e. what life as an officer is like you can e-mail me
     
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  23. jcgodfrey

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    turbomaniacal - I will email you. Thanks for the address.

    I believe I would make a great leader. I have no poor history, 12 million good references ha...I'm not worried about the school, although I DO realize it will be up to me to put in the time and hard work necessary to be successful.

    Thanks a lot.
     
  24. jcgodfrey

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    Ok, I have done this before. I request more information regarding becoming an officer in the Marines, and I get this email (which does not tell me how to contact an marine officer recruiter:

    Dear Joel,
    Thanks for your recent inquiry regarding officer training in the Marine Corps. Hopefully the information on our site answers most of your questions.
    Becoming a Marine Officer is not for everyone. But if you succeed in this rite of passage, you will be rewarded with a commission as an officer in the United States Marine Corps. A commission that will provide opportunities for career advancement and education, as well as the kind of management training no one in the private sector can match.
    I invite you to learn more about what it means to be an officer in the Marine Corps by contacting your local Marine Corps Officer Selection Officer.
    Semper Fidelis,
    Walter E. Gaskin
    Major General, United States Marine Corps
    Commanding General, Marine Corps Recruiting Command
    This message was sent to you because someone, possibly you, requested information about the Marine Corps and we're delighted to provide it. Do not reply to this message. This is an automated message system and the reply will not be received.
    Your privacy is important to us. We invite you to read our Privacy Statement at http://www.marineofficer.com/page/MarinesPrivacyPolicy.jsp

    Is someone seeing something that I'm not?
     
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