OK... everyone argue about my PC build now.

Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by DaIceMan, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. DaIceMan

    DaIceMan Jack Bauer > *.*

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    The computer is "designed" for gaming. I'll do other stuff with it, but not really too much. I'm an AMD fan, and ATI has lost me (and a couple buddies as customers, so Nvidia for this build).

    Silverstone TJ-04, $91
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811163022

    PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI-PFC ATX12V 510W Power Supply, $220
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817703001

    ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe, $180
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131568

    AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester, $297
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103562

    ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU 120mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Copper Heatsink - Retail, $50
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835118115

    CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200), $179
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145491

    XFX Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail, $300
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814150149

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s, $110
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148140

    Total: $1400-ish. The hard drive is pretty big for a gaming machine, even if I load all my old games, but for the price, a smaller drive really doesn't make sense. I haven't figured in cables, kb/mouse, etc yet, but I should be close to my budget of $1500 after rebates and shipping.

    Opinions, criticisms, etc? Bring it on. :wiggle:
     
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  2. kingtoad

    kingtoad OT Supporter

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    Not bad, however.... as much I used to live by Asus, I wouldn't recommend that board. Not that I've had any personal experience with it but I've heard from several users that they've had problems with it.

    I like Zalman cooling. Been using Zalman for years... they have always pleased me. Great choice ov video card. I have that exact card and I must add that I fucking love it.

    I would upgrade to a raptor drive as well.
     
  3. 5Gen_Prelude

    5Gen_Prelude There might not be an "I" in the word "Team", but

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    Rabble Rabble Rabble!
     
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    If you're getting a high-capacity SATA drive, make it a *SEAGATE*.

    Change to Corsair XMS.

    Get a different PSU. Maybe spring for a PC Power & Cooling.
     
  5. DaIceMan

    DaIceMan Jack Bauer > *.*

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    something wrong with OCZ... or just other stuff that's better?

    Also...what about perpendicular recording? give it a try, or wait?
     
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    OCZ is okay, but Corsair is the best for memory. And PC Power & Cooling is the best for PSUs. Why get something that's "okay" when you can have the "best" for about the same price?

    Seagate has perpendicular recording very stable -- but it's on their 750GB drive. Get any capacity Seagate that you feel comfortable spending the money on.

    Seagate > WD.
     
  7. DaIceMan

    DaIceMan Jack Bauer > *.*

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    What size PSU would you recommend for the listed system? I might (slim chance, but maybe) add another video card later if SLi proves itself worthy in the future.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140 320GB with perpendicular. 320gb should be plenty sufficient, but if not, the case has plenty of room to add another drive later if the need arises.
     
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    DaIceMan Jack Bauer > *.*

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    Links updated.

    jolly... anything wrong with the Asus board? something specific that would work better?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    it's a good board. There's compatibility probs with some cases, but it works fine in the TJ-04.

    If you really want a kick-ass system, I'd say spring for the TJ-07 -- but that board isn't compatible with that case.
     
  11. DaIceMan

    DaIceMan Jack Bauer > *.*

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    guess you missed the part about the $1500 budget? ;)
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    for $1500 you have a good system there.
     
  13. Wolf68k

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    For a few bucks more you can get some OCZ ram with a tighter timing plus there is a $40 MIR making it $20 less than the ram you list (before it's rebate).
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227084

    Or for $200 you can get some with the same timing as before but lower voltage and still a $40 rebate making it $10 less than yours
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227056



    As for the heatsink, Zalman is great I've got the 7000 on my XP3200+ and I love it. But for a 64-bit get the 9500 here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223
    Blows the air towards the rear case fan which should be blowing out anyway, it's got LEDs (ok no big deal) and it's only $4 more than the 7700.

    Depends on what's around when I finally get enough to get a mobo and CPU for an AMD64, but has it stands right now the 9500 is on my wish list...hell if it would fit my XP3200+ I would have gotten it.



    //edit
    I just noticed that. You might want to rethink that choice of case.
    The mobo is full size ATX. Look at where the right mounting wholes are for the full ATXmobos in that case. The right side of the mobo is going to be damn close to the HDDs and with the HDDs mounting the "normal" way you might have to install them first or right after the mobobut before the cables.
    Notice what one reviewer said for the Con, "...very cramped inside, but expected from a midtower design...Long PCI-E video cards might not fit!" and a 7900GT is a long PCI-E card last I heard.
     
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  14. deusexaethera

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    Building anything on a fixed budget is kinda sketchy anyway. You can buy good parts now or buy cheap parts now and good parts later, but either way you're going to buy good parts eventually. Just buy parts that are right at the point where the increase in price starts to outrun the increase in features, and take the price tag like a man.
     
  15. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I would change the cpu / motherboard and graphics card.

    I would get the faster Pentium D950
    Pentium D950 retail $322
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116240

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    And the ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe -$197 for superior SLI compatibility
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131564

    And the faster and cheaper eVga 7900gt Superclocked card.
    $275 after rebate, comes with a free copy of Hitman.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130016

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    I got a 13,000 3dmark05 with a pair of the eVga 7900gt's on my dual opteron setup.
    All in all, you would be in for the same price and have an overall faster machine.


    Oh yeah, the Asus board needs DDR667 memory.
    Two gb's of OCZ Gold Series - $146 after rebate
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227078



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    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    Current nVidia Intel chipsets are bloody horrible. Please don't buy this motherboard.
     
  18. JaJae

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    If he wants AMD, there's nothing wrong with AMD. Asus Intel boards aren't worth the money. Buy only Intel with an Intel processor.

    OCZ/Corsair is a matter of opinion to some, but most people I know wouldn't buy anything other than Corsair. The current setup he has listed is a great setup as far as parts are concerned.
     
  19. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Wake up and smell the coffee.

    The D950 owns the x2 3800.
    And the Opteron 165 for that matter.

    It's the best dollar value right now.
    Period.


    In fact, the only cpu that may be an actual better value is the D930 because
    it overclocks so well.
     
  20. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The parts I listed would outperform, across the board, the parts
    he has listed.
     
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    Cthalupa New Member

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    Bullshit. If he wants to go AMD, he wants to go AMD. That's not the thing being debated here.

    What is is the fact you told him to buy an nForce motherboard for an intel CPU, when it's a well known fact that nVidia's intel chipsets are subpar. He was saying to get a different motherboard if he decides go to intel. Don't be so goddamn defensive and actually read what's being said.
     
  22. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    What's bullshit is all you simps thinking their's something wrong with the
    Asus board I linked. Not one of you knows a thing about that board.

    All you amd clones crack me up.
    I already said I'm running a dual Opteron rig.
    I have nothing against going with amd.
    Just people wasting their money on slower gear.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    yet again you prove your ignorance. Intel nVidia chipsets SUCK. The only way to go on an Intel platform is an Intel chipset... and this is a moot point because he wants an AMD chip.
     
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    Cthalupa New Member

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    Is reading difficult for you? Alternatives that would allow him to go with an intel CPU were mentioned. It has nothing to do with intel vs amd. It has everything to do with motherboards out there for intel CPUs not made by intel are subpar.
     
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    :werd:

    An asus mobo with an nvidia(intel) chipset is not nearly as good as an intel-brand intel-chipset mobo.
     

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